Transposing a couple of letters/nos on a plate.
Discussion
My mother-in-law drove around with 2 mismatched plates (made up and fitted by the supplying VW dealership) for quite a long time (a year or more) before a slight knock required a new bumper and plate to be fitted. The eagle-eyed bod at the bodyshop queried which of the 2 different numbers should be used on the new plate, which was the 1st anyone heard of the problem!
depends on the circumstances and the copper....
regarding any 'breach of speed limits' and the photograph from a speed camera..if the plate is unknown..letters and numbers are 'twiddled with' (technical term
) by the computer to come back with possible true identity...
This in turn could lead to a more serious offence than speeding.
regarding any 'breach of speed limits' and the photograph from a speed camera..if the plate is unknown..letters and numbers are 'twiddled with' (technical term
) by the computer to come back with possible true identity... This in turn could lead to a more serious offence than speeding.
There have been a number of cases of one number plate on the front and a different one on the back with a transposition error.
When I worked in the trade this was always happening mainly because a monkey made the plates and they were all very similar registrations as they were block booked in blocks of 1000 cars.
Nothing serious ever happened as far as I remember but this was getting on for 10 years ago before cameras were everywhere.
And lets be honest the law only give a shit about plates these days because of the cameras...
When I worked in the trade this was always happening mainly because a monkey made the plates and they were all very similar registrations as they were block booked in blocks of 1000 cars.
Nothing serious ever happened as far as I remember but this was getting on for 10 years ago before cameras were everywhere.
And lets be honest the law only give a shit about plates these days because of the cameras...
been there did that and got a pull, the plate in question was on my old ducati and yes i did it for the obvious reason. Got pulled for sppeding but had,nt been clocked it was on the A580 in worsley then they did a p&c and found the plate i feigned ignorance and although all parties concerned were aware this was bull i wouldnt budge. The coipper who turned out to be one of those odd ones with an intact sense of humour bollocked me and sent me home to change the plate back recorded the incident and gave me a producer, no action ofany sort was taken apart from that
... it would be very easy to do.
My aging Golf is G577***. I think.
Although to be completely honest, it may be G557***. I genuinely and honestly cannot remember. Last time I went to a dealer, he needed the reg plate to identify the vehicle. And I had to walk over to the window to get it right.
You idea is an interesting one ... thanks!
Oli.
P.S. Anyone know where to get a plate without having to show a V5?
My aging Golf is G577***. I think.
Although to be completely honest, it may be G557***. I genuinely and honestly cannot remember. Last time I went to a dealer, he needed the reg plate to identify the vehicle. And I had to walk over to the window to get it right.
You idea is an interesting one ... thanks!
Oli.
P.S. Anyone know where to get a plate without having to show a V5?
Streetcop said:
regarding any 'breach of speed limits' and the photograph from a speed camera..if the plate is unknown..letters and numbers are 'twiddled with' (technical term
Interesting, as the ACPO guidelines posted on pepipoo state:
"Where the zoom facility and/or adjusting the contrast/brightness, or reversing
the films polarity cannot identify a vehicle registration mark, the reading will
be disregarded. PNC will not be used to establish identity by a search of a
range of numbers/letters and clarifying by make/colour."
So do your lot just ignore the guidelines ?
I certainly know of 2 people who've done similar things, one on purpose and the other the car came new with the wrong plates on it, but no one noticed until they got a parking ticket.
These days (especially if you had a fairly recent car) it would look odd if the original supplying dealers name (or the leasing company etc) wasn't on the plates. If FancyPlates put their name on then I imagine it would stick out to a 'proper' traffic bib and you could be looking at very serious charges (like deception, PCJ etc).
These days (especially if you had a fairly recent car) it would look odd if the original supplying dealers name (or the leasing company etc) wasn't on the plates. If FancyPlates put their name on then I imagine it would stick out to a 'proper' traffic bib and you could be looking at very serious charges (like deception, PCJ etc).
I think you will find that if it is GENUINE mistake then little or no action action will be taken i.e. fail to display Reg Plate.
But, as SC states, if it is established done for a nefarious reason then charge will be fraudulent use of a registration mark (S44 Veh Excise and Reg Act 1994)
- 5000 pound fine, 2 years imprisonment or both.
IIRC recordable offence so you will also pick up a CRO number which doesn't look nice on a C.V..
DVD
But, as SC states, if it is established done for a nefarious reason then charge will be fraudulent use of a registration mark (S44 Veh Excise and Reg Act 1994)
- 5000 pound fine, 2 years imprisonment or both.
IIRC recordable offence so you will also pick up a CRO number which doesn't look nice on a C.V..
DVD
Streetcop said:
regarding any 'breach of speed limits' and the photograph from a speed camera..if the plate is unknown..letters and numbers are 'twiddled with' (technical term
Sorry, the plate doesn't match the car so the computer transposes the digits until it finds one that does......
Mr E said:
regarding any 'breach of speed limits' and the photograph from a speed camera..if the plate is unknown..letters and numbers are 'twiddled with' (technical term
Sorry, the plate doesn't match the car so the computer transposes the digits until it finds one that does......
Yeah..about that...
Then you get a visit from the police...who do things like check the location of number plate rivets (if any), garage stickers, exact location of tax disc holder..etc
Streetcop said:
regarding any 'breach of speed limits' and the photograph from a speed camera..if the plate is unknown..letters and numbers are 'twiddled with' (technical term
So silver Mondeo ABC123 is caught on camera.
Your PNC shows the reg as unknown, but ABC132 and ABC213 both come up as silver Mondeos.
D'you just pick one of them at random to prosecute, or what?
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