280i Diodes
280i Diodes
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TVRleigh_BBWR

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6,553 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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anyone know where they are on a all black wiring 280.
As full beam is always on when lights are on.
Flasher works normally with lights off.

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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On my Tasmin the fuses and relays were on a panel on the offside inner wing (actually the wheel well), I'd have said any diodes would have been lurking around there... but in all my old Tasmin notes it doesn't mention them. I can't find my 'all-black' wiring diagram for the Tas at the moment but that'd be my best shot.

TVRleigh_BBWR

Original Poster:

6,553 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Thanks Wedgie I looked there as that's where the fuse's and relays are. but can't find the diodes, they are not buy the column eitherfrown spend best part of a day looking and testing everything else and cleaning all lighting switches.

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Leigh, I'm not 100% sure the early Tasmin actually had any diodes in the lighting circuit; it wouldn't necessarily have needed them unlike on the later cars with more complicated circuitry. In effect it was the same circuit used on the TR7; if there were no diodes on the Triumph then the TVR shouldn't have needed them either...
If your main beams are always on it could be the column switch 'flash' contacts are stuck closed.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

170 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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On my all black wired Tasmin, there is ONE diode, which sits between two relays.

There is no diode on the DIP beam circuit, so it connects directly to the lift/drop relay,
and the MAIN beam (next relay to the lift/drop on mine) has a single IN4001 diode to lift relay.

It's not easy to spot - use a good torch !!

Relays on mine were ordered DIP | MAIN | LIFT/DROP | LH MOTOR | RH MOTOR from front, bottom row - if they are still original.

TVRleigh_BBWR

Original Poster:

6,553 posts

234 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Thanks RCK974X
There is a link wire from MAIN beam and Lift relay, that was a lot newer and yellow, so I'll check tomorrow if there is a diode in there.

TY for Diode code also as best order some, be good to have some stock anyway.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

170 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Any of IN4000 series are fine - They are IN4001 (1 amp 50 volt) through to IN4007 (1 amp 1000 volt).
They should only drive the relay coils, so well under 1 amp.

Later wedges have several diodes, but if you think about it, all you need to do is to 'split' dip and main circuit where it connects to lift relay. When you add spotlights and headlamp dimmers then it gets a bit more complex.

(and there are diodes inside the lift motors as well, but pods won't stop correctly if these are dodgy).

That yellow wire does seem suspect !!

Edited by RCK974X on Monday 3rd August 20:10

Stog

169 posts

148 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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I'm in the process of re wiring my all black model, the relay plate was also mounted in the engine bay. I've pulled everything out and never could find any diodes. I'm just re wiring the whole car now using the diagram in the bible so I'm putting some in. They basically just connect from both the dip and the main beam feed to the coil in the main motor relay. So maybe trace back from the relay?

RCK974X

2,521 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Stog, if you think about it, you only need to separate the main and dip circuits, so one can go straight to the 'lift/drop' relay coil, and the other only needs a single diode.

That's how my black wired wedge was done (when I bought it, I assume that's original, don't know for sure).

2 diodes are fine as well, and probably safer overall.

TVRleigh_BBWR

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6,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Yes Yellow wire had no Diode in it, and once cut lights no longer put on full beam, will add a solder diode to the circuit and heat shrink it all up.
Spoke to my friend who's car it is, and he said he never noticed lol, as it must have always been like it, well since the person who added the yellow wire, I guess the diode broke and they just added a wire. they had done a good job if adding it unlike a lot of the twist and tape I had to re-do on a lot of the wiring while trying to find the problem. but at least now all the wiring has been sorted, and all the contacts in switches cleaned and have contact grease to stop them corroding. see too many wedge switches now to know to clean them and put contact grease on them.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Interesting -

My wedge suddenly developed an appetite for fuses a while ago, and I ended up taking the dash off, and discovering all the wire joins were soldered but just wrapped with insulation tape, which was falling off....

I think this was original wiring - with crappy insulation tape !!

I replaced with proper heat shrink tubing, and problems went away.

Other things, whilst I'm here -

Check all the connectors, especially the ones behind the right hand pod (from driver's seat) There are a stack there, not very visible unless you take the pod out. Mine were all green instead of copper coloured ..... also make sure the earth returns are all sound. I had some wierd electrical affects, fixed by redoing the earths. MUCH better after that.

TVRleigh_BBWR

Original Poster:

6,553 posts

234 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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All working now.
I've had both the pods out and re-done all bad wiring in there.
Also changed the bulb holders as they was a little melted at running at 115w

RCK974X

2,521 posts

170 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Excellent. Good Luck !!

adam quantrill

11,625 posts

263 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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I'm thinking of remaking the wiring loom for my 400SX, and going over to all black wiring as per the early TVR wedges. It seems like an excellent anti-theft device.

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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adam quantrill said:
I'm thinking of remaking the wiring loom for my 400SX, and going over to all black wiring as per the early TVR wedges. It seems like an excellent anti-theft device.
biggrin Well, a lot of aftermarket alarm/immobilisers use all-black wiring... Datatool did it with their Mk V motorcycle alarm as far back as 1992 and the infamous Vecta of that time was the same (even if you could defeat it with a cordless screwdriver whistle).

adam quantrill

11,625 posts

263 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Cheers Ian....

Oh - and I almost forgot - Lucar bullet connectors throughout.

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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adam quantrill said:
Cheers Ian....

Oh - and I almost forgot - Lucar bullet connectors throughout.
Scotchloks man, it's the future biggrin
Or at the very least, chocolate block (after applying Ohm's law to determine the correct rating, of course whistle).