Anyone know about regulations around public toilets?!
Discussion
The Moose said:
Why wouldn't they be ok?! 
Makes a lot more sense really tbh
Couldn't agree more. However what I'm dealing with is OAP committee members whose view is "we have to have urinals, because men are incapable of pissing in a WC". So I'm looking for some evidence based backup!Makes a lot more sense really tbh
miniman said:
The Moose said:
Why wouldn't they be ok?!
Makes a lot more sense really tbh
Couldn't agree more. However what I'm dealing with is OAP committee members whose view is "we have to have urinals, because men are incapable of pissing in a WC". So I'm looking for some evidence based backup!Makes a lot more sense really tbh
miniman said:
Couldn't agree more. However what I'm dealing with is OAP committee members whose view is "we have to have urinals, because men are incapable of pissing in a WC". So I'm looking for some evidence based backup!
Agree with them, but make them unisex and 8 feet off the ground.
There's nothing that says they have to be, however your end users will dictate how acceptable mixed gender toilets will be.
About ten years ago I project managed the build of two identical office blocks. One, for a young dynamic company were happy with mixed gender toilets. The other was for an older much more staid company, with ditto employees and their elder female employees would not accept mixed gender. We managed to do it in the same footprint as the mixed use ones were bigger to allow for individual cubicles to have handbag shelves and make up mirrors.
I would say for a village hall with a full range of the community likely to use it you would have an easier life with separate gender toilets, and a separate disabled / parent & baby room. But keep this up your sleeve to trade in the fight you really need to win with the stakeholders...
About ten years ago I project managed the build of two identical office blocks. One, for a young dynamic company were happy with mixed gender toilets. The other was for an older much more staid company, with ditto employees and their elder female employees would not accept mixed gender. We managed to do it in the same footprint as the mixed use ones were bigger to allow for individual cubicles to have handbag shelves and make up mirrors.
I would say for a village hall with a full range of the community likely to use it you would have an easier life with separate gender toilets, and a separate disabled / parent & baby room. But keep this up your sleeve to trade in the fight you really need to win with the stakeholders...
To be honest, if I come across somewhere with 1 male and 1 female loo (as opposed to 2 sets of toilets) and there's a queue or a wait for the male, I'll pop in the female loo (just to clarify, I am in fact, male!). I've also seen the opposite done and have no problem with it. Same with the disabled loo really.
I see no problem with that at all - ultimately it's the most efficient way to get the most people 'relieved' in the shortest period of time.
No doubt I'll be labelled as selfish or anti-disabled or some such nonsense now!
I see no problem with that at all - ultimately it's the most efficient way to get the most people 'relieved' in the shortest period of time.
No doubt I'll be labelled as selfish or anti-disabled or some such nonsense now!
miniman said:
Deliciously random question!
Is there any legislation anywhere stating that a public building (in this case a village hall) MUST have separate-sex toilet facilities? i.e. are multiple unisex facilities acceptable?
If anything the reverse, some schools are switching to combined sex toilets as to make a distinction between male and female toilets is deemed discriminatory against transgender children. Is there any legislation anywhere stating that a public building (in this case a village hall) MUST have separate-sex toilet facilities? i.e. are multiple unisex facilities acceptable?
I think you will find any requirement will be a Building Regulations requirement around number butnotnecessarially split between ladies and gents.
Having spant a couple of weeks in north Devon recently a number of the the public toilets there have unisex cubicles, and then a seperate room with urinals in it. I would have thought this is ideal for a hall, where most guys are going to want urinals rather than a sit-down so it effectively means the guys sit down is available for ladies use most of the time.
Having spant a couple of weeks in north Devon recently a number of the the public toilets there have unisex cubicles, and then a seperate room with urinals in it. I would have thought this is ideal for a hall, where most guys are going to want urinals rather than a sit-down so it effectively means the guys sit down is available for ladies use most of the time.
miniman said:
Deliciously random question!
Is there any legislation anywhere stating that a public building (in this case a village hall) MUST have separate-sex toilet facilities? i.e. are multiple unisex facilities acceptable?
You need to take a look at this British Standard rather than the Building regs:-Is there any legislation anywhere stating that a public building (in this case a village hall) MUST have separate-sex toilet facilities? i.e. are multiple unisex facilities acceptable?
'BS 6465-4: 2010 Sanitary installations. Code of practice for the provision of public toilets'
Personally for something like a village hall, the use of uni-sex loos will help with the flexibility of the facility. When they have a women-only yoga class or a mens dominos events, then all the loos are available rather than just half of them.
Paul
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