6 mile long speed traps
6 mile long speed traps
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M@H

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11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Anyone read about these in the Sunday Times yesterday... apparently they're under trial in a few counties (inc. Gloucestershire) in various places including some motorway roadworks.. ..it prevents the "panic" braking that people do at traditional cameras.

Basically they time you in then out of the zone, which can be up to six miles long, calculate your speed, and nick you accordingly. There must be some clever technology in it though as the first camera "reads" your numberplate and keeps a running list updated with the other camera which reads it again later on and photo's you as necessary if you are under the minimum time for the section.


Matt.

JonRB

78,822 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Um, isn't this the SPECS system that has been around for a few years now?

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Don't see how this is anything new - Specs has always worked like this.. A depressing extension of an existing scheme.. still - at least like other specs installations it's guaranteed not to be cost effective, so it won't last or be extended..

All just makes for more no-go zones..

M@H

Original Poster:

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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I dunno.. just read about it in the paper .... you can rely on the sunday times to be up to date

I must admit I'm not to au fait with the modern developments of speed cameras so I apologise if I'm talking about something thats already been done to death...


Cheers
Matt.

M@H

Original Poster:

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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OK so I'm years behind the rest of you... probably something to do with being born and bred in the westcountry...


Matt.

JonRB

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292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Don't worry M@T, your secret is safe with us - we won't tell anyone.

M@H

Original Poster:

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Phew... thanks guys..

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Nice Holiday then M@H? (presumably holiday as you've been AWOL for a while)....

M@H

Original Poster:

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Been working flat out on the House.. and at work.. had to try and get the PH addiction over... didn't work

Anything interesting happened lately...? Chassis got his engine together yet ?

PetrolTed

34,461 posts

323 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Perhaps someone could submit a test case that would force the prosecution into some low level Newtonian stuff to prove that you had to travel above the speed limit to get to the second camera in the time allowed.

...or maybe not.

M@H

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292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Ted.. I see you havent changed in the last month or so you been at the diesil fumes again lol

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Perhaps someone could submit a test case that would force the prosecution into some low level Newtonian stuff to prove that you had to travel above the speed limit to get to the second camera in the time allowed.
Actually I'd be inclined to drive the whole stretch at about 10mph.. several times.. with a 'Vote Labia' poster in each window

s_willy

9,699 posts

294 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Why not just stop on the hard shoulder for a couple of minutes if you think you've gone a bit fast through the first camera and then tank it through the second, aiming to average out your speed at about 55mph.

M@H

Original Poster:

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Why not just stop on the hard shoulder for a couple of minutes if you think you've gone a bit fast through the first camera and then tank it through the second, aiming to average out your speed at about 55mph.



Kind of defeats the object of using a bit of speed to get somewhere quickly tho' doesnt it... ?

Cheers
Matt.

granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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My God, it's just depressing.

superlightr

12,920 posts

283 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Do/will they work on the front or rear number plate?

Trying to think of a cunning plan,....

Luca Brazzi

3,982 posts

285 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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In case anyone's interested, the Origin, tells you that your in a specs zone and how far to go before the end.

Handy....
Steve

m-five

11,979 posts

304 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Why not just stop on the hard shoulder for a couple of minutes if you think you've gone a bit fast through the first camera and then tank it through the second, aiming to average out your speed at about 55mph.



Kind of defeats the object of using a bit of speed to get somewhere quickly tho' doesnt it... ?

Cheers
Matt.




But then you get to do 170mph with impunity as the camera proves you only averaged 49.999mph for the 6 miles

funkynige

9,649 posts

295 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Do/will they work on the front or rear number plate?

Trying to think of a cunning plan,....



Would this cunning plan involve going sideways through the camera?

Toffer

1,528 posts

281 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Do/will they work on the front or rear number plate?

Trying to think of a cunning plan,....



It is the rear plate.

I saw the article in the Sunday Times. It is the "Old SPECS" system currently deployed in 5 sets of roadworks and from one side of Leicester to the other.

The cameras are distinctive with a kind of eye each side of the "normal looing" CCTV camera. They will be mounted 20ft above the road on gantries and painted flourescent yellow.

The cameras work in pairs each pair cost 70,000 quid and the computer to network them is 100,000 quid.

The article did not mention cabling costs which are likely to be outrageous!

Th ereason for deploying the SPECS i sthat motorists brake for the GATSO type of camera causing more accidents than there were before the cameras were installed

What stupid numpty thinks that looking for cameras 20ft in the air will reduce accidents?