oil filter relocation

[macdeb]

Someone PM and suggested I should move this thread as it may be of use. Got round to fitting twin oil coolers, Went for two smaller so I could place them both out of the flow to intercooler and radiator at either side. As I'm running out of room in the engine bay I relocated oil filter to side of chassis by making/welding a plate so it now sits in between the offside wishbones as I didn't want to compromise on filter size with sandwich take off plate, made a heat shield to protect from radiant heat from manifolds. Should make filter changes easier too. Cut some vent holes for coolers trying to be sympathetic to original look iyswim. Also, relocated air filter also out of flow to radiator and added bonus of cutting out any bends and length.

Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 12th August 20:51

Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 12th August 20:51

Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 12th August 21:03

[ClassiChimi]

That's devilishly clever Mac. That's so clean that there car, brilliant.

[macdeb]

Thanks Alun.

[Pupp]

Super neat as always Mac; thanks for posting up. I suppose the only concern I would have is the (very slight) potential for road debris to be flicked up by the wheel and puncture the casing of the filter (my shocks always seem to take a lot of impacts judging by the dinks and dents in the spring coatings and the damper bodies - easily protected against with a wee shield I'm sure.

Any experience of the actual decrease in running temperatures being seen as yet? I have to work mine consistently hard to see anything above 103 deg or so and I'm usually +10 of whatever the coolant is at if you need a benchmark (lower boost that you obviously)

[macdeb]

Thanks Gary, I thought about making a sock from heat reflective stuff or similar to safeguard just in case of stone damage. Also thinking of fitting small fans behind coolers for standing traffic if I can work out suitable wiring, probably over winter. Thoughts?

[Sardonicus]

Mac thats very neat just one thing concerns me and if someone can just back me up on this as I dont have a spare int serp front cover to hand if that braided hose coming from the old oil pressure sender location in shot feeds your turbo I think that port is direct from the pump gallery i.e pre filter it dont matter your running remote or not in this case, like I say Mac please check or get confirmed but I have a feeling it is sorry to put a dampener on things but ........

[macdeb]

Thanks Simon, it is from pressure sender and as I'm aware all are like this. Do you think there may be a better take off point?

[Sardonicus]

macdeb said:

Thanks Simon, it is from pressure sender and as I'm aware all are like this. Do you think there may be a better take off point?

If I am correct and your is pre-filter then definitely Mac T'd off the oil lamp pressure switch point above the oil filter would be I need a good pic of the inside of the int serp front cover to confirm I am correct or someone with prior knowledge of this info wheres Spend when you need him? I know he would know this better to find out now Mac than later IMO

Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 13th August 10:01

[spend]

As standard, both the take-off ports in the timing cover with 'bungs' on the serp are pre-filter.

There is a core plug (underneath the gallery that goes up from the oil filter to pressure switch) that can be removed & tapped if you need post filter oil ( I tend to put the oil sender in there when using water/oil cooling from the timing cover takeoffs).

[macdeb]

There is of course an argument that it's all post filter oil, no? Any take offs I've seen are from the same point
Would it be worth changing then? 'PUPP' where's yours mate out of interest?

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 13th August 18:32

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 13th August 18:33

[Pupp]

macdeb said:

Also thinking of fitting small fans behind coolers for standing traffic if I can work out suitable wiring, probably over winter. Thoughts?

TBH I doubt they would result in that much more air passing over the cooler cores than would happen with the rad fans running - the air they draw and displace has to be pulled in and that is bound to result in pressure differences around the coolers, which will translate to flow. I suspect it would just be so much extra weight for anything that might achieve any benefit at all. With my cooler in the flat panel in front of the rad, I have found oil temperatures do start to fall (more gradually) once the coolant is brought down - idling or slow speed temps have never been an issue on mine but oil did climb smartly when running hard; now not a concern at all.

[Pupp]

macdeb said:

There is of course an argument that it's all post filter oil, no? Any take offs I've seen are from the same point
Would it be worth changing then? 'PUPP' where's yours mate out of interest?

I use the 'bunged' port on the side of the timing cover that is the Land Rover cooler return point - take oil temperature and the turbo feed from there with a stainless tee; as Spend says, also on the 'wrong' side of the filter ideally but I use a dedicated in-line filter in the feed anyway and figure if debris large enough to bother the turbo is being circulated then there are bigger problems to worry about. Mine is a roller bearing core 'though, which I suppose might be a little less susceptible to debris damage. >6k miles in and no problems with this set up so far (there; that's tempted fate!)