hmmm....is this a sign or just indecisiveness???
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i have never been one for believing in signs and stuff like that, but i do sometimes wonder!!
paid a useless trip to london on monday, essential market research and gallery/exhibition viewing for my current project at uni. wasnt a bad day in all, but nothing whatsoever was gained from it, and it became a very expensive waste of time!
the highlight of the entire day (which is actually the point of this post!!) was walking out of south kensington tube station, only to be faced with the Lamborghini dealers...seventh heaven!! i got so excited and promptly phoned my dad to tell him where i was, only for him to tell me to pack in my uni course and go ask for a job there, simply because he knew it would make me happy!! music to my ears i tell you!!
and given half a chance, i totally would too! nothing would make me happier than working with such beautiful pieces of machinery,
id make a good saleswoman, as i really do believe in the cause and i wouldnt need to lie one little bit! how does a fashion student get so excited at the thought of doing that kind of job, but finds going to her lectures for an exclusive and specialised course such a damn chore??????? 
my first love will always be that of horsepower nature
, its in my blood and i sometimes cant help feeling thats where i belong. but i then kick myself into touch, realising im only 19 and should probably stick at my degree first, no matter how annoying and boring it gets!
does anyone have any advice on how i would get into anything motoring/motorsport orientated? i had hoped there would be something in the clubs here, but there aint! mallory and donington are spitting distance away, but sadly i am yet to pass my test so am at a bit of a loose end!! aarrgghh!!
methinks it may be back to my dreaming and pining for the time being....
paid a useless trip to london on monday, essential market research and gallery/exhibition viewing for my current project at uni. wasnt a bad day in all, but nothing whatsoever was gained from it, and it became a very expensive waste of time!
the highlight of the entire day (which is actually the point of this post!!) was walking out of south kensington tube station, only to be faced with the Lamborghini dealers...seventh heaven!! i got so excited and promptly phoned my dad to tell him where i was, only for him to tell me to pack in my uni course and go ask for a job there, simply because he knew it would make me happy!! music to my ears i tell you!!
and given half a chance, i totally would too! nothing would make me happier than working with such beautiful pieces of machinery,
id make a good saleswoman, as i really do believe in the cause and i wouldnt need to lie one little bit! how does a fashion student get so excited at the thought of doing that kind of job, but finds going to her lectures for an exclusive and specialised course such a damn chore??????? my first love will always be that of horsepower nature
, its in my blood and i sometimes cant help feeling thats where i belong. but i then kick myself into touch, realising im only 19 and should probably stick at my degree first, no matter how annoying and boring it gets! does anyone have any advice on how i would get into anything motoring/motorsport orientated? i had hoped there would be something in the clubs here, but there aint! mallory and donington are spitting distance away, but sadly i am yet to pass my test so am at a bit of a loose end!! aarrgghh!!
methinks it may be back to my dreaming and pining for the time being....
My advice would be follow your dreams, not someone elses.
I might sound a bit old here, but I look back at times in my life where I did what I thought was right by what others (parents) wanted, in hind sight I should've taken no notice of them at all and pursued my dreams.
I can remember having a blazing argument with my parents during my A levels, I was very disillusioned with going to University, was told 'it's a meal ticket'.
The world is a very different place now to how it was when I was your age, and it will be a very different place again by the time you're my age.
As it happened I didn't go to uni, and in all honesty, over the years I can't say I've had too many nights cold and hungry without a bed. I've worked hard and taken my education as my own responsibillity. I often used to say 'I had a very good education and I'm only just beginning to get over it'.
Do remember that there are some basic skills that you need to get through this world, learn them by whatever means you see suiting you.
If you trust in your self then there is very little you can't achieve.
All I can say is look deep inside yourself and follow the road you want, not the one you feel obliged to follow.
best
Ex
I might sound a bit old here, but I look back at times in my life where I did what I thought was right by what others (parents) wanted, in hind sight I should've taken no notice of them at all and pursued my dreams.
I can remember having a blazing argument with my parents during my A levels, I was very disillusioned with going to University, was told 'it's a meal ticket'.
The world is a very different place now to how it was when I was your age, and it will be a very different place again by the time you're my age.
As it happened I didn't go to uni, and in all honesty, over the years I can't say I've had too many nights cold and hungry without a bed. I've worked hard and taken my education as my own responsibillity. I often used to say 'I had a very good education and I'm only just beginning to get over it'.
Do remember that there are some basic skills that you need to get through this world, learn them by whatever means you see suiting you.
If you trust in your self then there is very little you can't achieve.
All I can say is look deep inside yourself and follow the road you want, not the one you feel obliged to follow.
best
Ex
mungo said:
Advice - Don't mix pleasure with business...
I work in one of my big passions in life (not cars). In many ways, it can strengthen it, but I suppose it can depend on how stressful the job is or how involved you get.
Hmm...that didnt make much sense did it? Lets just say, tomorrow my work day is goning to be fun!
been a car salemsan.... don't do it.
I love cars.. But i'd give anything to have my time again and go back and get a degree..
Thr hours as a Salesman/woman suck balls, you will have next to no free time and your weekends are destroyed.
Selling Lambo's would be great, but for how long? The punters would be few and far between and the ones you did sell to would live with you... temperamental little italian thingies and all that...
If it were me i'd stay, get your degree - chase your dream...
If it is unattainable THEN go sell cars...
Depending on what Vixpy calls a lot of money, your first year should see you around 25k ish upto 35k ish as you get better... you could get to 50k eventually but it would take a good franchise like merc/bmw/audi to see that and a shed load of your time...
Ferrari and Lambo sales will carry a higher (20k ish) basic and small commision... Due to the desire factor of working for them...
In short stay at uni and when all else fails sell stuff.
edited because i cant spell having never gone to uni
>> Edited by scoobz on Wednesday 2nd February 22:35
I love cars.. But i'd give anything to have my time again and go back and get a degree..
Thr hours as a Salesman/woman suck balls, you will have next to no free time and your weekends are destroyed.
Selling Lambo's would be great, but for how long? The punters would be few and far between and the ones you did sell to would live with you... temperamental little italian thingies and all that...
If it were me i'd stay, get your degree - chase your dream...
If it is unattainable THEN go sell cars...
Depending on what Vixpy calls a lot of money, your first year should see you around 25k ish upto 35k ish as you get better... you could get to 50k eventually but it would take a good franchise like merc/bmw/audi to see that and a shed load of your time...
Ferrari and Lambo sales will carry a higher (20k ish) basic and small commision... Due to the desire factor of working for them...
In short stay at uni and when all else fails sell stuff.
edited because i cant spell having never gone to uni
>> Edited by scoobz on Wednesday 2nd February 22:35
Getting back into a degree course is pretty tough to do. Getting into selling cars is something you could probably choose to try at any time. Stick with the degree, see if you can get a car sales job during the summer. If you want to sell high end stuff, you'll probably need to build up a basic knowledge of how the business works first.
Whilst you're at university, you have the chance to decide how you want to live your life. Once you start earning, those choices become far more limited by the basic need to keep paying the bills.
I used to live round the corner from the South Ken Lambo garage - I remember them very slowly inching a Countach back over the (very low) curb into the showroom one day - a lovely sight.
Whilst you're at university, you have the chance to decide how you want to live your life. Once you start earning, those choices become far more limited by the basic need to keep paying the bills.
I used to live round the corner from the South Ken Lambo garage - I remember them very slowly inching a Countach back over the (very low) curb into the showroom one day - a lovely sight.
such words of wisdom from everyone!! thanks!
but selling cars really aint where my heart would be at all, im from north wales and am literally 2 minutes away from the legendary Evo triangle! its very frustrating seeing the photos in the issues when it comes through the door! i want to be out there doing that kind of thing, feeling the cars (somehow i doubt i need to justify what i mean by that, being among fellow enthusiasts!), being a journalist for that kind of magazine, being able to put the cars through their paces on some beautiful stretches of road!......
when dad said to give up my course and work in lambo sales, i know he didnt mean it literally, my course is not what it originally seemed and im so very disappointed with it, and being down here in the city of Leicester, i dont get much of a speed/car fix anymore either! therefore he was trying to make me smile, which worked till i realised i was actually on my way to the V&A museum!!! yey...not!
i have a lot of thinking to do, and although i hate my degree at the moment, i know i need to stick at it as it could get better next year. only problem is that ill have no other qualifications except my National Diploma in Fashion and Clothing and then my degree in Contour Fashion and Fashion Design...doesnt really leave many open doors at the end of it if i decide i want a career change!!
i used to be indecisive, but now i just dont know!! or really im just very confused!
but selling cars really aint where my heart would be at all, im from north wales and am literally 2 minutes away from the legendary Evo triangle! its very frustrating seeing the photos in the issues when it comes through the door! i want to be out there doing that kind of thing, feeling the cars (somehow i doubt i need to justify what i mean by that, being among fellow enthusiasts!), being a journalist for that kind of magazine, being able to put the cars through their paces on some beautiful stretches of road!......
when dad said to give up my course and work in lambo sales, i know he didnt mean it literally, my course is not what it originally seemed and im so very disappointed with it, and being down here in the city of Leicester, i dont get much of a speed/car fix anymore either! therefore he was trying to make me smile, which worked till i realised i was actually on my way to the V&A museum!!! yey...not!
i have a lot of thinking to do, and although i hate my degree at the moment, i know i need to stick at it as it could get better next year. only problem is that ill have no other qualifications except my National Diploma in Fashion and Clothing and then my degree in Contour Fashion and Fashion Design...doesnt really leave many open doors at the end of it if i decide i want a career change!!
i used to be indecisive, but now i just dont know!! or really im just very confused!
foxley31785 said:
does anyone have any advice on how i would get into anything motoring/motorsport orientated?
Study hard, work hard, make good financial decisions and make it a point in your life to pursue your dreams. Who knows in 10 years you may be walking into that dealership and asking the salesman to show you the latest model and coming backs days later to pick up your new Lamborghini. Any one can do anything…
I have posted a couple of similar threads recently questioning university and seeking a route directly into the car industry, the most relevant to your scenario being here
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=152112
I too hated my course, so i quit it. I intend to start a Vehicle Design course at Coventry next year.
If I were you I would seriously consider looking at courses that you think you will enjoy aswell as get a worthwhile degree from.
Having a ND in fashion will help if you ever feel like going back into that area of things, and you can always do the fashion degree later on if you feel the need.
Whatever decision you make, be sure to talk about it with everyone and anyone who it may concern to the point that it irritates them. Then go home, disregard everything you've been told and choose the one with the best male to female ratio and biggest union and go there
Time for some sleep me thinks.
Bernie
A marketing degree would be the best route into car sales but this would be really dull.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=152112
I too hated my course, so i quit it. I intend to start a Vehicle Design course at Coventry next year.
If I were you I would seriously consider looking at courses that you think you will enjoy aswell as get a worthwhile degree from.
Having a ND in fashion will help if you ever feel like going back into that area of things, and you can always do the fashion degree later on if you feel the need.
Whatever decision you make, be sure to talk about it with everyone and anyone who it may concern to the point that it irritates them. Then go home, disregard everything you've been told and choose the one with the best male to female ratio and biggest union and go there
Time for some sleep me thinks.
Bernie
A marketing degree would be the best route into car sales but this would be really dull.
TheExcession said:
My advice would be follow your dreams, not someone elses.
Claire has always been told to follow her dreams, neither of us is trying to live our lives through her or her brother (trying not to sound to harsh, honest).
Our dreams for her is to be doing what she wants in life, and being able to wake in the morning and look forward to what the day brings.
The thing we will admit to however is being responsible for the "car gene", she was involved in motorsport before she was even born.
Oh and Claire
I used to help sell Hyundais to clueless numpties - an utterly thankless task, but after a while I began to appreciate the practicality of the Santa Fe. The Coupe V6 is a brilliant car that I used to think about thrashing round a track or a country lane, and after a dull day's work, relaxing in a fully-optioned XG-30 even became appetising. But the point is, I couldn't - they weren't my cars. At the end of the day, I'd get into a little Fiat Punto, which wasn't even mine, and the salary (albeit it was only a summer job) wouldn't have bought me one anyway.
And these are Hyundais - the lure of Lamborghinis would just, over time, turn you into a person so green with envy passers-by will think you're a traffic light, or ill. You'll work with these exotic beauties every day, and at the end of it, that old Bruce Springsteen line "Lookin' so fine, and so outta reach" comes to mind. You'd have a great chat with some clued-up potential buyers, but you will be envious of them, and I'm sure Lambo dealerships aren't free of dickheads either - no doubt footballers and drug dealers have to check out the product before they sign the cheque.
In short, if you like selling cars to people richer than you'll ever be, by all means work in the Lamborghini dealership. But if you like Lamborghinis, set your target on getting yourself one one day - even if it's something a bit unknown like an Urraco or Jalpa, or even an accurate replica like a Lamberti-Prova ZL (Miura), Black Bull Mirage (Countach) or Torero S (Diablo). And you'll reach that goal by applying the skills you've learnt doing your degree, no doubt.
I have a feeling we may be at the same stage - degree students, final year, faced with the enormity of the world of work and beginning to wonder whether all this 'pointless' effort is worth it. I pondered this and posted a thread here. The responses were very helpful - it is just a piece of paper, but you'd be surprised how far a piece of paper can take you.
And these are Hyundais - the lure of Lamborghinis would just, over time, turn you into a person so green with envy passers-by will think you're a traffic light, or ill. You'll work with these exotic beauties every day, and at the end of it, that old Bruce Springsteen line "Lookin' so fine, and so outta reach" comes to mind. You'd have a great chat with some clued-up potential buyers, but you will be envious of them, and I'm sure Lambo dealerships aren't free of dickheads either - no doubt footballers and drug dealers have to check out the product before they sign the cheque.
In short, if you like selling cars to people richer than you'll ever be, by all means work in the Lamborghini dealership. But if you like Lamborghinis, set your target on getting yourself one one day - even if it's something a bit unknown like an Urraco or Jalpa, or even an accurate replica like a Lamberti-Prova ZL (Miura), Black Bull Mirage (Countach) or Torero S (Diablo). And you'll reach that goal by applying the skills you've learnt doing your degree, no doubt.
I have a feeling we may be at the same stage - degree students, final year, faced with the enormity of the world of work and beginning to wonder whether all this 'pointless' effort is worth it. I pondered this and posted a thread here. The responses were very helpful - it is just a piece of paper, but you'd be surprised how far a piece of paper can take you.
v8thunder said:
In short, if you like selling cars to people richer than you'll ever be, by all means work in the Lamborghini dealership. But if you like Lamborghinis, set your target on getting yourself one one day - even if it's something a bit unknown like an Urraco or Jalpa, or even an accurate replica like a Lamberti-Prova ZL (Miura), Black Bull Mirage (Countach) or Torero S (Diablo). And you'll reach that goal by applying the skills you've learnt doing your degree, no doubt.
I have a feeling we may be at the same stage - degree students, final year, faced with the enormity of the world of work and beginning to wonder whether all this 'pointless' effort is worth it. I pondered this and posted a thread here. The responses were very helpful - it is just a piece of paper, but you'd be surprised how far a piece of paper can take you.
Wise words v8thunder! though i can assure you that selling cars really isnt where my love lies, not at all in fact, it was just the fact that on a totally boring and rather annoying day, working in their dealerships would have been a ray of sunshine!! but it would defo be short lived, im not very tolerant of pompous people at the best of times, certainly the kind that would end up in there, so id be crap at it come to think of it!!
im only in my first year, which is what makes this thread even more pityful! i thought i would enjoy the more specialised aspects of this course (it covers underwear as well as outerwear, and is the only joint degree of its kind in the world) but i actually really hate them!!
all i can really do is find out what we cover next year, and in the 3rd year, and then decide if i want to keep at this or transfer to a single honours....decisions decisions! sticking at my degree will probably get me somewhere, that piece of paper seems to help with most jobs these days! besides, ill hopefully have passed my driving test by september, and as mallory and donington are not very far away, i will find some solace on their circuits for the time being im sure, and maybe see where that takes me!
Go with what you love-don't think about it too much just do it.
I have never met anyone who was unsuccessful doing something they were really passionate about. And I'm not necessary talking about financial success but just good at what they do (although financial success usually follows-which is nice!)
If you have to work for 8 hours a day for gods sake make sure you love it otherwise what is the point?
I have never met anyone who was unsuccessful doing something they were really passionate about. And I'm not necessary talking about financial success but just good at what they do (although financial success usually follows-which is nice!)
If you have to work for 8 hours a day for gods sake make sure you love it otherwise what is the point?
foxley31785 said:
sticking at my degree will probably get me somewhere, that piece of paper seems to help with most jobs these days! besides, ill hopefully have passed my driving test by september, and as mallory and donington are not very far away, i will find some solace on their circuits for the time being im sure, and maybe see where that takes me!
It sounds like you might as well set your sights on being the next Vivienne Westwood or Pierre Cardin - people more than easily disposed to buy Lamborghinis! The fact that your degree is unique will no doubt be a strong selling point in your area of work.
I'm doing a Politics degree at York - a good combination, so I'm told - and although the first and second years went by OK, the third year's really getting to me, mainly because of the fact that after 17 non-stop years of education in some form or another, it's all going to end and finally, after 21 years on this planet, I'll have to realise what it's like to be a fine upstanding pillock of the community.
I did Politics because I wanted to go into journalism. I wanted to be a satirical type who writes for Private Eye, but I realised, after a while, that political journalism really isn't my thing - I prefer cars and music and films! (though I could still do satire). I'd also love a role in the planning and creative side of the media, and this is something I've realised not through my course, but through my involvement with societies - cinematography, radio etc. I've made a film and I've got my own radio show and that, for me, is better than anything the Politics department has to offer, but I'll use that degree to do that.
So there you go - you may be doing fashion design, but over your time at university, you will get involved with all sorts of other activities that fire your imagination and get you thinking 'I'd like to do this as a job'.
And stick with your degree! If it's the only one in the world of it's kind, it's valuable. I know people in their third year at university who've changed course three or four times and find the same boredom setting in on all the courses - trust me, it's the same for everyone. Keep at it and you'll thank yourself three years later, when people you know are still milling around at university, unsure of their direction, and you've gone out there and got yourself a life.
wedge girl said:
What were you hoping to do in the fashion industry?
I had originally hoped to go into Bridalwear, hence the course as it covers corsetry etc, but its not a very rewarding job in the long run and its so hard to branch out into bespoke stuff and set up your own business and make it reputable. Sometimes id like to go into journalism, but id get bored of that very quickly! plus my course doesnt really cater for those aspects of the industry so i wouldnt have a clue!
i love making things, but hate the design development and evaluation process as i really struggle with it due to my dyslexia!
foxley31785 said:
wedge girl said:
What were you hoping to do in the fashion industry?
I had originally hoped to go into Bridalwear, hence the course as it covers corsetry etc, but its not a very rewarding job in the long run and its so hard to branch out into bespoke stuff and set up your own business and make it reputable. Sometimes id like to go into journalism, but id get bored of that very quickly! plus my course doesnt really cater for those aspects of the industry so i wouldnt have a clue!
i love making things, but hate the design development and evaluation process as i really struggle with it due to my dyslexia!
Years ago I worked with a certain hat maker, he often wanted to drop out, mainly because he lacked good business skills, however his flair and unique style carried him through.He is now very well known, and I am proud to own one of his first pieces.
Many good designers take on a partner to deal with the non creative side of a business.
It's a good industry to be in, especially as it will give you lots of opportunity to travel, be prepared to work for very little financial reward in return for knowledge.
If you are passionate about textiles and hungry to succeed, I'd stick with fashion.
>> Edited by wedge girl on Thursday 3rd February 17:46
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