Cayman - new model or old ?

[Bieldside]

Slightly odd question but I have seen a very nicely spec'd Design Edition Cayman for sale

For another £25,000 I could get a new shape Cayman S with a bit of finance to bridge the gap and a balloon payment to give say £300 pm cost

They are different beasts not only due to the pdk but internally

Thoughts ? Who has gone from old shape to new shape and would comment

Thanks

[PorscheGT4]

the new 981 is far more an Audi like feel vs the 987.2 cars which have a nice feel to them imo.

you have to test drive both and see what you like.

[Trev450]

987.2's were available with PDK so its a case of driving both to decide which one you prefer.

[tyrrell]

Yes you need to drive both, 981 much more modern inside, better looking IMHO, also no longer has to use the 911 doors which were fitted on the 987, however 987 version a little more analogue in the driving experience you pays your money and makes your choice, happy problem to have.

[BubblesNW]

I would also add that the early 987 had engine issues, the later 987.2 is MUCH more reliable. The changeover was in 2009 (I think) and the Design Edition was a runout model of the 987.1 with black on black stripes and a briefcase IIRC.

[Bieldside]

I will add that I have a 991 GT3 so the look inside of the new Cayman is a great place to be

But I just think that it would not feel different enough to make me feel that I am driving a different car - does that make sense ?

I have possibly answered my own question!

Thanks

[pete a]

For someone who clearly has a bit of dough you ask some stupid questions, although. Maybe that's the point, to tell us of your 1st world problems and the cars you have, how many what new toy threads have you started over the lat year or two?


Too many , I think you've got a few going now, if your smart enough to earn the money to buy the stuff you already own. I'm sure you can workout what Cayman you want on your own.


PH is going downhill badly these days.

[Mermaid]

PorscheGT4 said:

the new 981 is far more an Audi like feel vs the 987.2 cars which have a nice feel to them imo.

you have to test drive both and see what you like.

This ^

[YoungMD]

pete a said:

For someone who clearly has a bit of dough you ask some stupid questions, although. Maybe that's the point, to tell us of your 1st world problems and the cars you have, how many what new toy threads have you started over the lat year or two?


Too many , I think you've got a few going now, if your smart enough to earn the money to buy the stuff you already own. I'm sure you can workout what Cayman you want on your own.


PH is going downhill badly these days.

Harsh my friend harsh...

[Bieldside]

pete a said:

For someone who clearly has a bit of dough you ask some stupid questions, although. Maybe that's the point, to tell us of your 1st world problems and the cars you have, how many what new toy threads have you started over the lat year or two?


Too many , I think you've got a few going now, if your smart enough to earn the money to buy the stuff you already own. I'm sure you can workout what Cayman you want on your own.


PH is going downhill badly these days.

Thanks for that comment
Nice to know you get a friendly response
I just like cars. What is wrong with that and I consider myself very lucky to have some great ones
What is wrong with hard work and enjoying the proceeds ?

[Trev450]

Bieldside said:

pete a said:

For someone who clearly has a bit of dough you ask some stupid questions, although. Maybe that's the point, to tell us of your 1st world problems and the cars you have, how many what new toy threads have you started over the lat year or two?


Too many , I think you've got a few going now, if your smart enough to earn the money to buy the stuff you already own. I'm sure you can workout what Cayman you want on your own.


PH is going downhill badly these days.

Thanks for that comment
Nice to know you get a friendly response
I just like cars. What is wrong with that and I consider myself very lucky to have some great ones
What is wrong with hard work and enjoying the proceeds ?

Ignore the troll. Good for you that you can enjoy your cars from the outcome of your efforts.

[bcr5784]

tyrrell said:

Yes you need to drive both, 981 much more modern inside, better looking IMHO, also no longer has to use the 911 doors which were fitted on the 987, however 987 version a little more analogue in the driving experience you pays your money and makes your choice, happy problem to have.

While I suspect I understand what people are saying by using the word "analogue" -even if it's a corruption of the term. It's closely related in some peoples minds to the word "virgin". Since the advent of power steering, servo brakes, ABS, stability management - even syncho gearboxes - the term "analogue" has conceptually become some way from "virgin".

All that said, the electric power steering does (for me - but not everyone) seriously detract from the 981's appeal - so I can understand that 20% virgins might prefer the 987. But then any power steering seriously detracts from the driving experience for me.

[PaulD86]

Mermaid said:

PorscheGT4 said:

the new 981 is far more an Audi like feel vs the 987.2 cars which have a nice feel to them imo.

you have to test drive both and see what you like.

This ^

+1 And I can't stand Audis. The 981 for me is going to be a nicer car to drive around town in and do the motorway miles in, but if that's all you're interested in then you shouldn't be looking at a Porsche IMHO. The other thing I really can't forgive new Porsches for is the console around the gear stick - space for about 20 buttons and pretty much impossible to spec a car that doesn't end up with heaps of blanking buttons which look terrible to me.

Assume your design ed is a Gen 1 (my mates is and I thought they all were), in which case why not look at something like a gen 2 R if you fancy a change? Just a thought.

[gav_sw20]

Bieldside said:

Slightly odd question but I have seen a very nicely spec'd Design Edition Cayman for sale

For another £25,000 I could get a new shape Cayman S with a bit of finance to bridge the gap and a balloon payment to give say £300 pm cost

They are different beasts not only due to the pdk but internally

Thoughts ? Who has gone from old shape to new shape and would comment

Thanks

I was in this exact same predicament earlier.

I had been looking at getting a late 987 , as a daily, during March of 2016. However, I then realised that for a few thousand more (£24k ish) I could get a 987.2 with low mileage, fresher interior and the refined DFI engine. The plan was to save for a few months and buy outright with a PX on my Scirocco TSi - happy days.

Got talking to my Sales Director at work who pointed out that (with my 16k a year mileage) I'd be buying a car with 20k on the clock, and it would be worth considerably less in x3 years time. Then I'd have to go through the whole "find-sell-buy" process again...repeat until retire.

He mentioned getting a PCP plan...something that I have never really agreed with in the past. Although it made sense as long as you have something to PX, and don't mind paying a monthly fee (bearing in mind I was looking to buy outright).

I then spent a months or so looking at finance options for a new 981...I then realised the wait was almost x5 months ! Scrap that then.

Cue 2 months later (and a 3yr PCP) and I've now got a dealer demo manual Cayman 2.7 981 with 2k on the clock with £14k's worth of options sat on the drive. I pushed hard for my PX price and got it in the end. And I don't have to worry about warranty or MOT until December 2017. It's basically a brand new car.

PM me if you want an idea of what finance I was being offered.

I still can't believe it looking out the window now !

The GFMV is £19k but the OPC said that Porsche always under value their PCP cars. I'm hoping that with the 4 cylinder Turbo coming our next year the current 981 will retail it's value.

OPC said that it is likely in 18months they will call me to get the car back and then tempt me into something else. Works for me.

Remember though that this is a daily for me so the low mileage / warranty is worth a lot to me. Basically if you can afford it, then get one as new as you can.

[pete a]

Trev450 said:

Ignore the troll. Good for you that you can enjoy your cars from the outcome of your efforts.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1535348&mid=149463

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

There's 4 in the last month or so, I've no issue with people doing well, I applaud success , I'm just not so keen on faux hand wringing posts like these every couple of weeks from the same poster.

In answer to the original question though either get a 987.2 R or get a 981 GTS if you want the cream of the model.

Totally different cars though.

[EricE]

981 for a daily driver/only car

987.2 for a weekend car/"toy"

You'll have to test drive both of them and see what suits you better.

[Trev450]

pete a said:

Trev450 said:

Ignore the troll. Good for you that you can enjoy your cars from the outcome of your efforts.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1535348&mid=149463

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

There's 4 in the last month or so, I've no issue with people doing well, I applaud success , I'm just not so keen on faux hand wringing posts like these every couple of weeks from the same poster.

In answer to the original question though either get a 987.2 R or get a 981 GTS if you want the cream of the model.

Totally different cars though.

I personally don't see it that way, but we are all different, fortunately.

[PorscheGT4]

gav_sw20 said:

He mentioned getting a PCP plan....

[Oso]

The first gen Caymans are lovely and under appreciated so if you like the idea then why not? Nice contrast with the GT3 too.

[Mermaid]

Oso said:

The first gen Caymans are lovely and under appreciated so if you like the idea then why not? Nice contrast with the GT3 too.

Their so called purity will be appreciated even more once we get the 4 pot turbo Caymans.