Scam warning
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techsec

Original Poster:

633 posts

286 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Just a quick warning for any of you with items for sale on the web. There is a scam going on by a person or persons possibly abroad. Similar scams have been seen before. Basically you initialy receive an e-mail stating an interest in your item but the wording is very much pidgeon english and usually due to the way the e-mail is done you reply (yes it has happened to me they asked for pictures and the price).
The next e-mail you receive says thank you for agreeing to sell your item to them (even though you have not made such an agreement) and that they are owed money by someone who will pay them by a certified cheque. However they will get the person to send you the cheque instead and you then take your items price plus a "compensation fee" and then send the remaining amount to them via another payment method and then their shipper will come and collect the item from you.

I believe the best way of dealing with this is to basically not reply to the second e-mail and any further e-mails and on no account give any of the personal details they request (name,address, phone number etc).

In my case it was to do with the body tub I have for sale and I was slightly suspicious with the first e-mail but when the second one arrived I instantly thought no way matey.

Not sure whether the police need informing of this scam or not but basically beware.

whackman

64 posts

258 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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yeah, i've had numerous e-mails offering to buy my hard top but deleted them straight away,simply because i thought it a bit weird that someone "international" would be seriously interested ,considering i cant sell the bloody thing at home!,best to just ignore them.

tonkaland

298 posts

251 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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It appears to be rife at the moment , a friend of mine sold a £500 Nissan Maxima just after Christmas using buy-it-now on Ebay only to find out the buyer was in Nigeria!

They then try to offer you twice the auction price and you have to send the other half back , just another elaborate money laundering scam I guess.

Adythewindow

56 posts

258 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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As I understand it, the "buyer" sends you the `bankers draft` or `certified cheque` and say that they would like the remainder sent electronically. The money goes out of your account and the the cheque bounces or the draft is refused. In the worst case that I heard of the buyers not only scammed several grand out of the guy, but had also sent their "overseas representative" to pick up the car (a TVR) so they got away with the lot.

IanA

472 posts

286 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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We need agents to receive payment for our products (wire transfers) and to send the money to us. This way we will save money because of the tax decreasing.
Tax for international money transfer made by entity (company) in Switzerland is 25%. There is no sense for us to work this way, but tax for international money transfer made by a private individual is 6% - That's why we need You!

As soon as you receive the money from us (usually it's up to 5000$ per transaction.), you will leave for your self 6-8% from the each amount of money you will receive.
The rest of the money you send to us using Western Union.
Usually, we're making 7-10 transactions per month.
Everything is absolutely legal, that's why You have to fill a contract!

I regularly receive emails like this. Personally if I need to launder money I use the Hotpoint Bank, the one with the ATM in our kitchen between the dishwasher and the dryer...
Cheers
Ian

Logibear

84 posts

253 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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Hi boys
I suffered a similar thing on Ebay. I had my trailer tent for sale and a Nigerian bought it on the " buy now " deal. I think he may have been a kid having a laugh. Ebay immediately stopped the ad ( with one day to go )and charged me the usual fees. I complained and they returned the final listing fee. This person had bought several things that day, all fake, so he had a bad feedback record which Ebay recognized. This left me with no ad, no sale and paying for it. I say Ebay are quite happy to allow scams like this as they get their cut and the customer has to advertize again at his cost.
PS.. I still have the trailer tent which is a two person Comanche Petit 2003 - ideal for towing with a Jago and going to the shows - if any one is interested
Logi

IanA

472 posts

286 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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I've sold a few bits on eBay but only accept PayPal. That way you know there's a credit card behind it (but whose??? I suppose).

Like they say "where there's brass, there's muck" or should that be scum.
Cheers
Ian