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Totally ignorant when it comes to bikes, but have always wondered...
How fast does "the average bike" reach 60? It would be nice to hear everyones speeds, not just the fastest speeds, to guage an idea of how fast the average bike is on the street (it wont be an accurate average I know, but like I said I know next to nothing about em.
Chap I was speaking to last night quoted a 3.2 time
Scary just thinking about it!
How fast does "the average bike" reach 60? It would be nice to hear everyones speeds, not just the fastest speeds, to guage an idea of how fast the average bike is on the street (it wont be an accurate average I know, but like I said I know next to nothing about em.
Chap I was speaking to last night quoted a 3.2 time
Scary just thinking about it!a slow bike like a harley or even a sports 125 can do it in 8 seconds or less
most litre sports bikes will do sub 4 seconds, even sub 3 seconds for the very latest and 600s aren't far behind them
it's all about technique/skill though, even more than in a car
edit: here's a good list of car and bike 1/4 mile times
www.totalmotorcycle.com/downloads/carmotorcycleperformancecharts1.htm
>> Edited by hugoagogo on Thursday 3rd February 19:16
most litre sports bikes will do sub 4 seconds, even sub 3 seconds for the very latest and 600s aren't far behind them
it's all about technique/skill though, even more than in a car
edit: here's a good list of car and bike 1/4 mile times
www.totalmotorcycle.com/downloads/carmotorcycleperformancecharts1.htm
>> Edited by hugoagogo on Thursday 3rd February 19:16
Bob
anything from about 2.7 secs (kawasaki ZX10, Yamaha R1, etc - i.e. big sportsbikes) to around 4 secs (for an all round 600 (non-sportsbike). So quicker than a car, but then there's only about 1/5 of the weight to shift and aerodynamics don't really come into play at these sorts of speeds!
anything from about 2.7 secs (kawasaki ZX10, Yamaha R1, etc - i.e. big sportsbikes) to around 4 secs (for an all round 600 (non-sportsbike). So quicker than a car, but then there's only about 1/5 of the weight to shift and aerodynamics don't really come into play at these sorts of speeds!
UKBoB said:
Chap I was speaking to last night quoted a 3.2 time
Bear in mind that a fast bike will easily reach 60 in 1st gear, which helps bring the time down, also modern sportsbikes have a power to weight ratio far in excess of any road car (probably similar to an F1 car?) ie less than 200kg with 170bhp, even with 80kg of rider & kit thats still a lot of power to weight, biggest problem on the 0-60 is getting drive without flipping or spinning up.
After a Litre sportbike any car feels slow.
You know it makes sense
catso said:
Chap I was speaking to last night quoted a 3.2 time
Bear in mind that a fast bike will easily reach 60 in 1st gear, which helps bring the time down, also modern sportsbikes have a power to weight ratio far in excess of any road car (probably similar to an F1 car?) ie less than 200kg with 170bhp, even with 80kg of rider & kit thats still a lot of power to weight, biggest problem on the 0-60 is getting drive without flipping or spinning up.
After a Litre sportbike any car feels slow.
You know it makes sense
I had heaving great buckets of bottle at 16, wanted a bike, wasnt exactly sensible either but strangley I promised myself I would never buy a bike for safety reasons. Thinking about getting my licence (and thats it!) no really
. Everyone Ive known who owned a bike crashed it at some point, ranging from minor to horiffic injuries, Im just too captain sensible to go for it. Or would that be captain fraidycat? 
I asked, as in the archive there are plenty of 'tvr Cerbera thrashes bike, suprises driver' stories, its insane to think some of you lot are are in 600bhp ultima territory! Respect where its due, which is none really because you're all nutters
I dont spose anyone here owns a TVR and a bike? I imagine learning to ride is another kettle of fish. On todays roads, with other things to look out for and a completely different driving style needed to stay safe?
UKBob said:
I dont spose anyone here owns a TVR and a bike? I imagine learning to ride is another kettle of fish. On todays roads, with other things to look out for and a completely different driving style needed to stay safe?
I remember a similar thread last year and you'd be surprised how many bike freaks love TVR's. Me for one, frankly most 4 wheeled metal is too tedious to bother with.
My Cerb in the wet is actually quite similar to my R6 in that to stay on the road you take it real easy around the bends and get on the power slowly.
UKBoB said:
I asked, as in the archive there are plenty of 'tvr Cerbera thrashes bike, suprises driver' stories, its insane to think some of you lot are are in 600bhp ultima territory! Respect where its due, which is none really because you're all nutters
I dont spose anyone here owns a TVR and a bike? I imagine learning to ride is another kettle of fish. On todays roads, with other things to look out for and a completely different driving style needed to stay safe?
Bob, there's a lot of bollocks talked about bikes versus cars, so I'd just say take it with a pinch of salt. Have a poke around on the viper forum for their bike versus 900 hp viper thread - lengthy but good video demonstrates the reality of just how quick bikes can be.
Like the man says, high powered vehicles of any kind require smooth modulation of the throttle to stay on the black stuff, but for me, there's nothing that comes close to the bike for involvement. I've barely skimmed the surface in the biking world and didn't learn to ride until later in life, but I'm glad I did. My TVR is fantastic and I can't see a point where I'd ever not own one were I able, it's just bikes and cars are different tools for different jobs. If you've always wanted to have a go then do it, just make sure you protect yourself well, because sooner or later you'll be glad of that protection (see how do I convince someone to wear protection thread).
All the best,
Steve.
I have a Suzuki Bandit 600, according to that chart someone posted, capable of a quarter mile time of 12.7 seconds - though thats a 2001 model with 73bhp - I believe the earlier ones had around 80bhp.
Anyway, I was knocked off back in September by a car driver who didn't indicate or look before performing a manouvre. We collided at less than 30mph and I felt like i'd been hit by a truck. I have a damaged neck, lower back, twisted left knee and damaged right hip. My helmet was wrecked, as were my goretex trousers but the rest of my kit is fine - gloves are a bit scuffed, but my jacket and boots are pretty much unmarked. Thing is, I was considering riding that particular trip in jeans and jacket - im glad I didn't!!
Anyway, I was knocked off back in September by a car driver who didn't indicate or look before performing a manouvre. We collided at less than 30mph and I felt like i'd been hit by a truck. I have a damaged neck, lower back, twisted left knee and damaged right hip. My helmet was wrecked, as were my goretex trousers but the rest of my kit is fine - gloves are a bit scuffed, but my jacket and boots are pretty much unmarked. Thing is, I was considering riding that particular trip in jeans and jacket - im glad I didn't!!
The GSX-R 1000 can do 0-120 in 7.7 seconds and it'll still be pulling strongly with 4 gears left.
The problem with bikes is that it takes a hell of a lot more skill/courage to ride a bike a 80-90% attack than it does with a car as any mistake will leave you on the floor with an expensive bill for indicators, fairing (if you have one) clutch/crankshaft cover, pegs, exhaust, clip-ons, forks, leathers, lid etc.
Bear in mind that simply dropping your bike can cost £500 and you get the idea!
The problem with bikes is that it takes a hell of a lot more skill/courage to ride a bike a 80-90% attack than it does with a car as any mistake will leave you on the floor with an expensive bill for indicators, fairing (if you have one) clutch/crankshaft cover, pegs, exhaust, clip-ons, forks, leathers, lid etc.
Bear in mind that simply dropping your bike can cost £500 and you get the idea!
UKBoB said:
I dont spose anyone here owns a TVR and a bike? I imagine learning to ride is another kettle of fish. On todays roads, with other things to look out for and a completely different driving style needed to stay safe?
Oi you, get back to the cerb forum
To be honest I'm still very new in the bike world and only have a little 600.
In the winter weather it's hard enough beating a fiesta off the line with the cerb.
The bike actually feels smoother than the cerb. The cerb can be all or nothing at times, it's not the easiest car to pootle around in. I would rather take the bike on any short trips round town.
I'll see how things go in the summer when I move up into litre territory but my cerb is spending a bit more time tucked up in the garage these days...
Andy
One of the peculiarities of bikes is that you'll probably find you don't ride your 1000 any quicker (possibly slower) than your 600. The bigger capacity and torque just make the performance more accessible.
Let's face it, 600cc bikes are pretty damn fast and I know I never really stretched mine on the road, if I'm honest. Sure, mates on 1000s would pull away on the straights but those occassions were few and far between.
Good choice on the ST, though. I've ridden a Trumpet and the triple is a nice engine - shame it sounded like a diesel at tickover.
One of the peculiarities of bikes is that you'll probably find you don't ride your 1000 any quicker (possibly slower) than your 600. The bigger capacity and torque just make the performance more accessible.
Let's face it, 600cc bikes are pretty damn fast and I know I never really stretched mine on the road, if I'm honest. Sure, mates on 1000s would pull away on the straights but those occassions were few and far between.
Good choice on the ST, though. I've ridden a Trumpet and the triple is a nice engine - shame it sounded like a diesel at tickover.
Ahh but... the bigger bike is to make life easier for some touring. I don't really want it to go faster as I doubt I'll be exceeding the cbr6 performance anytime soon
At the moment I've got a trip down to France and Italy planned for June. Then in late August we are going across to Dubrovnik then back via Zagreb and Prague
Felt like a bigger bike would take it in it's stride a lot easier than a sport600
The cerb is most likely going to be off sometime over the summer to be replaced by something else, maybe, and I quite fancy a little 250 or 400, CCM Dual Sport type thingy for a bit of fun/green laning Got to see what the financial manager (er indoors) 
says about that!!!!
Quite enjoying this biking lark though...
At the moment I've got a trip down to France and Italy planned for June. Then in late August we are going across to Dubrovnik then back via Zagreb and Prague
Felt like a bigger bike would take it in it's stride a lot easier than a sport600 The cerb is most likely going to be off sometime over the summer to be replaced by something else, maybe, and I quite fancy a little 250 or 400, CCM Dual Sport type thingy for a bit of fun/green laning
Got to see what the financial manager (er indoors) says about that!!!! Quite enjoying this biking lark though...
IIRC Litre bikes dont rev as high (due to the longer stroke?) and have longer ratios, meaning less of the frenetic changing up and down the box that you get on a 600. Personally that's one of the things I really like about biking - fast gear changes with bonkers acceleration in between.
I have a KTM 950 - big trail bike really. It is not at all sportsbikey and is really sit up and beg but it still hits 60 in 3 seconds and you'll be pulling 100 not long after with 3 gears to go. I agree with all the comments, you simply can't go and senselessly thrash a bike like you would a car, but after a bike all cars are a bit dull.
KTMs are also tough!! Got knocked off on Saturday going to the Ally Pally show. Just picked th ebike up - no scuffs and no damage, other than to my ego!!!
Have fun!!!
KTMs are also tough!! Got knocked off on Saturday going to the Ally Pally show. Just picked th ebike up - no scuffs and no damage, other than to my ego!!!
Have fun!!!
twit said:
you simply can't go and senselessly thrash a bike like you would a car,
Really depends on the bike, with great handling sporty 400s etc its fine, they are just as swift down a twisty road as somat mad but you are flat out, while they are using just a few mm of throttle to stop getting spat off & being high sided into the next county
Of course if you come across some hardcore ex racer lunatic on a 1 litre, rather than the posey born agains that are far more prevalent, it might be a diferent story
It was great fun watching bennyboy lap pretty much everything at brands on his race SV650, which ok has hard suspension, but about half the bhp of even a tuned 600, let alone a 1 litre! He is however a bit handy on 2 wheels tho!
Mad Dave said:
IIRC Litre bikes dont rev as high (due to the longer stroke?) and have longer ratios, meaning less of the frenetic changing up and down the box that you get on a 600. Personally that's one of the things I really like about biking - fast gear changes with bonkers acceleration in between.
I miss my ZX6's bonkers powerband at 9k+ but the thunderace is a stealth missile is really shifts when you wind it up , and only 5 gears which is nice
Fascinating thread, have loads to say/ask buy am being called away from the computer!
Mate of mine got his licence, and thats it. He had no intention of getting a bike. Id like to do the same, kinda like buying a flying/ballooning/track day experience. Its something I want to do in life, but feck me... actually buying one I feel a lot safer in the cerb
Mate of mine got his licence, and thats it. He had no intention of getting a bike. Id like to do the same, kinda like buying a flying/ballooning/track day experience. Its something I want to do in life, but feck me... actually buying one
I feel a lot safer in the cerb 
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