how to find the truth if a flight was cancelled?

[superlightr]

Have an employee that said their flight was cancelled from Berlin to Gatwick on the 24 Aug was a reason they were a day late back at work for the 25th. They had previously asked for the 25th off but was denied it due to staff issues etc.

Now before we say that she needs to provide proof/confirmation of the cancellation/we dont believe her, I thought it may be more sensible to try and check but am having trouble finding a list of cancelled flights for Berlin airport to Gatwick or easyjets website.

Any help would be appreciated.

[RobGT81]

any use?

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/u25408/
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/u25416/

Edited by RobGT81 on Friday 28th August 10:00

[Otispunkmeyer]

I find the FlightAware website to give a better account of thing. Try that.

[easytiger123]

5 flights that day from Berlin Schoenefeld (no Berlin-Gatwick flights from the other Berlin airports). One flight, Easy Jet 5414 was cancelled by the look of it.

[Otispunkmeyer]

easytiger123 said:

5 flights that day from Berlin Schoenefeld (no Berlin-Gatwick flights from the other Berlin airports). One flight, Easy Jet 5414 was cancelled by the look of it.

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/EZY5414/hist...

yep

[axgizmo]

I would just ask for the evidence.
I was taken ill whilst in the Isle of Man last year for the Manx GP, I spent 6 out of 7 days over there in Nobles Hospital.
When I returned to work and HR got wind of it they asked for proof in order to return my holiday days to me and count the time as sick. I was a bit miffed they asked for proof but hey, it's their job, I could have been lying.

When I got stuck in Spain because of the Ash Cloud, I wouldn't have had any issues with providing evidence had it been required.

[HA51EMT]

We ask our employees to get written confirmation from the airline at the time of delay/cancellation.

[droopsnoot]

axgizmo said:

When I returned to work and HR got wind of it they asked for proof in order to return my holiday days to me and count the time as sick. I was a bit miffed they asked for proof but hey, it's their job, I could have been lying.

Still, that sounds like quite a nice policy - a lot of places would take the view that if you happened to be on holiday when you got ill, that's your bad luck.

[anonymous-user]

Wow, it's like East Germany.

One of my employees said they were ill last week, can anyone here help investigate? I'm also looking at checking what time someone leaves their house in the morning, can anyone help me spy on them?

[MDMetal]

droopsnoot said:

axgizmo said:

When I returned to work and HR got wind of it they asked for proof in order to return my holiday days to me and count the time as sick. I was a bit miffed they asked for proof but hey, it's their job, I could have been lying.

Still, that sounds like quite a nice policy - a lot of places would take the view that if you happened to be on holiday when you got ill, that's your bad luck.

I believe this is now an employment right not a nicety. Whether your company feels obliged to do this and whether you feel like fighting is a different matter

[droopsnoot]

MDMetal said:

droopsnoot said:

axgizmo said:

When I returned to work and HR got wind of it they asked for proof in order to return my holiday days to me and count the time as sick. I was a bit miffed they asked for proof but hey, it's their job, I could have been lying.

Still, that sounds like quite a nice policy - a lot of places would take the view that if you happened to be on holiday when you got ill, that's your bad luck.

I believe this is now an employment right not a nicety. Whether your company feels obliged to do this and whether you feel like fighting is a different matter

Interesting. Though I work for myself, so it doesn't matter to me now.

[MDMetal]

droopsnoot said:

MDMetal said:

droopsnoot said:

axgizmo said:

When I returned to work and HR got wind of it they asked for proof in order to return my holiday days to me and count the time as sick. I was a bit miffed they asked for proof but hey, it's their job, I could have been lying.

Still, that sounds like quite a nice policy - a lot of places would take the view that if you happened to be on holiday when you got ill, that's your bad luck.

I believe this is now an employment right not a nicety. Whether your company feels obliged to do this and whether you feel like fighting is a different matter

Interesting. Though I work for myself, so it doesn't matter to me now.

Still it's good practise to apply the same rigorous standards no matter the company size, you should deduct yourself any holiday you've shuffled round for your yourself and haven't cleared with yourself to encourage the rest of yourself to take matters seriously!

[Zippee]

el stovey said:

Wow, it's like East Germany.

One of my employees said they were ill last week, can anyone here help investigate? I'm also looking at checking what time someone leaves their house in the morning, can anyone help me spy on them?

Hardly. Its looks more like suspicion as the employee had already asked for and was turned down the day of the 25th.

[anonymous-user]

Zippee said:

el stovey said:

Wow, it's like East Germany.

One of my employees said they were ill last week, can anyone here help investigate? I'm also looking at checking what time someone leaves their house in the morning, can anyone help me spy on them?

Hardly. Its looks more like suspicion as the employee had already asked for and was turned down the day of the 25th.

You don't think there's anything a bit unsavoury about getting people on the Internet to help investigate your employees? Do you know the employee, why would you want to get them in trouble?

[jshell]

superlightr said:

Have an employee that said their flight was cancelled from Berlin to Gatwick on the 24 Aug was a reason they were a day late back at work for the 25th. They had previously asked for the 25th off but was denied it due to staff issues etc.

Now before we say that she needs to provide proof/confirmation of the cancellation/we dont believe her, I thought it may be more sensible to try and check but am having trouble finding a list of cancelled flights for Berlin airport to Gatwick or easyjets website.

Any help would be appreciated.

You should be able to find out IF a flight was cancelled, not WHY a flight was really cancelled.

Colleague of mine got so sick of Scandinavian cancelling quiet flights on a 'technical' basis that he tried to take them all the way through the legal process to get to the bottom of it. No chance!

[Zippee]

el stovey said:

Zippee said:

el stovey said:

Wow, it's like East Germany.

One of my employees said they were ill last week, can anyone here help investigate? I'm also looking at checking what time someone leaves their house in the morning, can anyone help me spy on them?

Hardly. Its looks more like suspicion as the employee had already asked for and was turned down the day of the 25th.

You don't think there's anything a bit unsavoury about getting people on the Internet to help investigate your employees? Do you know the employee, why would you want to get them in trouble?

No I don't. OP was just asking how to find out if a flight was cancelled, not ask the internet to investigate his staff. Personally I think he has a valid suspicion based on what he's stated and is just looking for confirmation himself. If no flights were cancelled do you not think he'd then have a valid case to approach the employee for further proof? Where have I stated I want to get them in trouble? I know neither the OP or the employee, as a manager myself I would likely have similar suspicions if it were one of my staff and I had been told similar, the KEY point here being a suspicion as they'd already asked for the day in question.

[anonymous-user]

Zippee said:

el stovey said:

Zippee said:

el stovey said:

Wow, it's like East Germany.

One of my employees said they were ill last week, can anyone here help investigate? I'm also looking at checking what time someone leaves their house in the morning, can anyone help me spy on them?

Hardly. Its looks more like suspicion as the employee had already asked for and was turned down the day of the 25th.

You don't think there's anything a bit unsavoury about getting people on the Internet to help investigate your employees? Do you know the employee, why would you want to get them in trouble?

No I don't. OP was just asking how to find out if a flight was cancelled, not ask the internet to investigate his staff. Personally I think he has a valid suspicion based on what he's stated and is just looking for confirmation himself. If no flights were cancelled do you not think he'd then have a valid case to approach the employee for further proof? Where have I stated I want to get them in trouble? I know neither the OP or the employee, as a manager myself I would likely have similar suspicions if it were one of my staff and I had been told similar, the KEY point here being a suspicion as they'd already asked for the day in question.

Yes, I understand that he's suspicious, thanks for explaining that to me.

The point I'm making is that I think it's a bit unpleasant that he's asking for help and others are helping, in a matter which is between the OP and his employee.

You're obviously OK with it (as a manager yourself) so I'll leave you to it.

[ril7979]

http://www.euclaim.co.uk/flight-delay-compensation...

from the site above no flights cancelled from Berlin

[Zoon]

I think it's pretty obvious what happened here.
They'd already asked for the 25th and it wasn't granted, but took it anyway.

[Puggit]

Zoon said:

I think it's pretty obvious what happened here.
They'd already asked for the 25th and it wasn't granted, but took it anyway.

Except there is evidence that flight 5414 was actually cancelled.

Now - does the OP know for sure that the employee was in Berlin?