School 'Remove'' year.
School 'Remove'' year.
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wildcat45

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8,160 posts

220 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I went to a state school. A 13-18 High School. (Gosforth High School in Newcastle.)

Kids joined at age 13 in what in today's speak would be year nine. When I joined the school this year was called the 'Remove Year'. This was back in 1983.

My wife is a teacher and I was just telling her a school anecdote when she questioned this 'Remove Year' thing. She'd never heard of it.

Anyone know what the term meant and where it came from?

Apparently the terms 'Lower Fifth and 'Fifth Year' are also no longer used either. When did the school year numbering thing change? It must have been long ago.


randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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According to Wikipedia, 1990 was the death of the Sixth Form in state schools. Year 9 as the Lower Remove is more arcane, but there if you search for it.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

166 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I have never heard of this, I left high school/secondary school in 2004 and the years there (Newsome High School in Huddersfield) were categorized as years 7 - 11.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Odd. At my school the lower sixth was the remove. First to fifth years, then remove, the upper sixth.

iambeowulf

712 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Axionknight said:
I have never heard of this, I left high school/secondary school in 2004 and the years there (Newsome High School in Huddersfield) were categorized as years 7 - 11.
Yes because you left in 2004!

The op is talking about the 80's, before colour TV and remote controls (not including the ones with leads).

2/10. Must do better and stop kissing boys behind the bike shed.

SidJames

1,399 posts

264 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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"remove year" is a new one on me too.

in my day the "first year" was what is now year 7 (about 11 years old"), followed by 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th ("O" Levels), then if you chose A levels you had 6th and finally Upper 6th.

My wife and daughter talk in the new fangled way and i am constantly aking them to convert it to "old money".

55palfers

6,395 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Back in the late '60s, "Remove" was the year between end of 5th Form and the first year of 6th Form for those doing O Level re-sits.

RicksAlfas

14,586 posts

275 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I have vague recollections of a "Transitus" year as well, but it disappeared before I got to it.


redddraggon

268 posts

160 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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In my school:

Remove was the first year (yr 7).
Shell = Yr 8
3rd = Yr 9
4th = Yr 10
5th = Yr 11
Lower VI = Yr 12
Upper VI = Yr 13

steveatesh

5,383 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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iambeowulf said:
Axionknight said:
I have never heard of this, I left high school/secondary school in 2004 and the years there (Newsome High School in Huddersfield) were categorized as years 7 - 11.
Yes because you left in 2004!

The op is talking about the 80's, before colour TV and remote controls (not including the ones with leads).

2/10. Must do better and stop kissing boys behind the bike shed.
Ha just shows the state of modern education system eh? Anybody coming through the old system wouldn't have made such a schoolboy error, don't know what the world is coming too, it will be down to these inter web things and all that X Station stuff.
AK do a hundred lines "I must read the post before engaging my fingers" smile

toon10

7,152 posts

188 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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wildcat45 said:
I went to a state school. A 13-18 High School. (Gosforth High School in Newcastle.)

Kids joined at age 13 in what in today's speak would be year nine. When I joined the school this year was called the 'Remove Year'. This was back in 1983.

My wife is a teacher and I was just telling her a school anecdote when she questioned this 'Remove Year' thing. She'd never heard of it.

Anyone know what the term meant and where it came from?

Apparently the terms 'Lower Fifth and 'Fifth Year' are also no longer used either. When did the school year numbering thing change? It must have been long ago.
That's a new one on me. My son is at Gosforth Academy and as far as I know it's just year 9, 10, etc. When I was at school it was 3rd, 4th and 5th year then 6th form. None of your remove year, lower fifth, etc. It all got confusing when some schools introduced the 2 tier system and some stayed 3 tier. My mates daughter looks about 6 years old (she's really small) yet started high school this week.

trickywoo

14,274 posts

261 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I think it was more of a public school thing. I remember shell, remove, lower and upper 5th and 6th being common.

coopedup

3,742 posts

170 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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trickywoo said:
I think it was more of a public school thing. I remember shell, remove, lower and upper 5th and 6th being common.
Yup, had very similar at my public school, Hurstpierpoint College in the early 80's

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

295 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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We had

13 - Third Form
14 - Fourth Form
15 - Fifth form
16 - Lower Sixth
17 - Middle Sixth
Swotty kids - Upper Sixth

wildcat45

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8,160 posts

220 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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toon10 said:
That's a new one on me. My son is at Gosforth Academy and as far as I know it's just year 9, 10, etc. When I was at school it was 3rd, 4th and 5th year then 6th form. None of your remove year, lower fifth, etc. It all got confusing when some schools introduced the 2 tier system and some stayed 3 tier. My mates daughter looks about 6 years old (she's really small) yet started high school this week.
I hope it's still a great school and that he loves it there. I had a fantastic time there right through to sixth form that's lower and upper sixth not year 12 or whatever these days. I was the second youngest in the year. Some kid called Alan who was OK at football was the youngest.

Off topic but I went back last month for a snoop around when I found myself at a loose end in Gosforth. Got as far as the field before the gadgee (very politely) hoyed me oot!

rohrl

8,984 posts

176 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Mine was

First Year - Fifth Year for the 11-16's then Lower Sixth and Upper Sixth.

I left in 1995.

MikeO996

2,008 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Apparently it originates from Harrow:

"The first year at Harrow is for 13-year-olds going on 14. It is called the Shell and is equivalent to Year 9 in the State system. After that there is the Remove and the Fifth Form, or V2s (five-two's). The two years after that are the Sixth Form, which is made up of the Lower Sixth or VI3s, and the Upper Sixth or VI2s. Once there were also VI1s and these were pupils who stayed on to study for Oxbridge. The names shell and remove come from the fact new boys used to eat under a shell in their first year in the dining hall. In the second year, therefore, they were "removed from the shell" and hence Remove."

john2443

6,552 posts

242 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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55palfers said:
Back in the late '60s, "Remove" was the year between end of 5th Form and the first year of 6th Form for those doing O Level re-sits.
This. My state Grammar school had it until about 1970.

Have none of you read Billy Bunter books? He was (permanently I think) in the Remove.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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redddraggon said:
In my school:

Remove was the first year (yr 7).
Shell = Yr 8
3rd = Yr 9
4th = Yr 10
5th = Yr 11
Lower VI = Yr 12
Upper VI = Yr 13
We had Shell and Remove at ours too.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

187 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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What a load of ste.

In Scotland it's simply Primary 1-7 then Secondary 1-6.

Jobbed.