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If you need help on PH dealing with companies like this you need professional help - I'd be surprised if any of them would want to do any work unless its going to run to a 6 figure sum and more so one presumes its either something big you're looking to do or you're looking at the wrong type of company.
You can approach a range of companies including those with Risk Assurance Services who will help ensure any SI work is done correctly. They cost too but a badly worded request or work order because you don't know what you need to ask for will be far far more expensive than the money you pay out for support. In the past I've worked client side and I once covered the costs for 3 of us for a year in the first meeting when I reviewed the hardware the supplier were suggesting the client bought. And being on the supplier side, there is nothing more painful than an ignorant client.
You can approach a range of companies including those with Risk Assurance Services who will help ensure any SI work is done correctly. They cost too but a badly worded request or work order because you don't know what you need to ask for will be far far more expensive than the money you pay out for support. In the past I've worked client side and I once covered the costs for 3 of us for a year in the first meeting when I reviewed the hardware the supplier were suggesting the client bought. And being on the supplier side, there is nothing more painful than an ignorant client.
JonV8V said:
If you need help on PH dealing with companies like this you need professional help - I'd be surprised if any of them would want to do any work unless its going to run to a 6 figure sum and more so one presumes its either something big you're looking to do or you're looking at the wrong type of company.
Much as I hate to burst you bubble... I will anyway 
Navigating the right people to talk to in big SIs is a minefield. As it happens I work for one and helped the OP connect to the right person.
We already use their company in a small scale but another dialogue never hurts, possibly with a different angle. We have risk share and consumption based agreements with partners and vendors...
PS. PH is ace.
Vaud said:
JonV8V said:
If you need help on PH dealing with companies like this you need professional help - I'd be surprised if any of them would want to do any work unless its going to run to a 6 figure sum and more so one presumes its either something big you're looking to do or you're looking at the wrong type of company.
Much as I hate to burst you bubble... I will anyway Navigating the right people to talk to in big SIs is a minefield. As it happens I work for one and helped the OP connect to the right person.
We already use their company in a small scale but another dialogue never hurts, possibly with a different angle. We have risk share and consumption based agreements with partners and vendors...
PS. PH is ace.
My point has nothing to do with who the right person is to talk to (I do know, I've worked for 3 and been a director/partner in 2 of them), it's about knowing what you're asking for. I've had to pick up the pieces of customers not knowing what they want, the supplier doing what they where contracted to do, the customer realising they were wrong and blaming the supplier for not being a mind reader because 'they're the experts'. That's my point
JonV8V said:
Fine and good luck.
My point has nothing to do with who the right person is to talk to (I do know, I've worked for 3 and been a director/partner in 2 of them), it's about knowing what you're asking for. I've had to pick up the pieces of customers not knowing what they want, the supplier doing what they where contracted to do, the customer realising they were wrong and blaming the supplier for not being a mind reader because 'they're the experts'. That's my point
Oh I know - trust me, I have the scars...My point has nothing to do with who the right person is to talk to (I do know, I've worked for 3 and been a director/partner in 2 of them), it's about knowing what you're asking for. I've had to pick up the pieces of customers not knowing what they want, the supplier doing what they where contracted to do, the customer realising they were wrong and blaming the supplier for not being a mind reader because 'they're the experts'. That's my point
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