ban them from flying
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what do the pistonheads collective think about this, should the passengers on the British Airways flight that caught fire in Las Vegas who collected their hand luggage before leaving the plane be banned from flying again. Thankfully no one was injured ,but if the fire had spread rapidly these idiots could have prevented others from leaving.
85Carrera said:
Yes, technically they also committed a criminal offence by not following the captain's instructions. I'd like to see them prosecuted because they put other passengers lives at risk but suspect it won't happen
Agreed. It's not even as if they were handbags by their feet, these idiots took the time to retrieve trolley cases from the overheads. Definitely should be prosecuted.This is the main topic of conversation in this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - although since it's in NP&E, I can understand if you'd rather not go there..
Eric Mc said:
I think each flight should be conducted by two separate aircraft - one to carry the passengers and another to carry the baggage.
Alternatively, you could have the passengers in the main aircraft with the baggage in a towed glider coming along behind - a bit like this -
Or passengers in the glider.Alternatively, you could have the passengers in the main aircraft with the baggage in a towed glider coming along behind - a bit like this -
1) no risk of fire from the engine
2) the EU can stick their aviation 'green' tax where the sun doesn't shine
had ham said:
This is the main topic of conversation in this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - although since it's in NP&E, I can understand if you'd rather not go there..
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I agree with the sentiment OP.
My phone, passport and wallet are always in my pocket whilst flying so I probably have would got up, screamed like a little girl and headed as fast as possible for the exit (whilst continuing to scream like a little girl) - not stopping to grab my bag. The Mrs on the other hand... Not so sure.
My phone, passport and wallet are always in my pocket whilst flying so I probably have would got up, screamed like a little girl and headed as fast as possible for the exit (whilst continuing to scream like a little girl) - not stopping to grab my bag. The Mrs on the other hand... Not so sure.
Banning them is just as daft as blaming them.
They need to do some proper study's on passenger behaviour and what can influence it. This is not the first evacuation, and these are not the first suitcases out.
It does not help how little attention is paid to the safety briefing. Have a look around next time and see how many people talk over it.
They did all get off very quickly and with only (inevitable) minor injuries so this could be called a success!
They need to do some proper study's on passenger behaviour and what can influence it. This is not the first evacuation, and these are not the first suitcases out.
It does not help how little attention is paid to the safety briefing. Have a look around next time and see how many people talk over it.
They did all get off very quickly and with only (inevitable) minor injuries so this could be called a success!
I hope those who grabbed bags from overhead let everyone else go first as I certainly wouldn't be waiting patiently behind them while they grab it. I don't see an issue with picking up your handbag from below your seat, my DSLR camera bag would have been on me ready to go in that time they said stay seated.
Crush said:
Eric Mc said:
I think each flight should be conducted by two separate aircraft - one to carry the passengers and another to carry the baggage.
Alternatively, you could have the passengers in the main aircraft with the baggage in a towed glider coming along behind - a bit like this -
Or passengers in the glider.Alternatively, you could have the passengers in the main aircraft with the baggage in a towed glider coming along behind - a bit like this -
1) no risk of fire from the engine
2) the EU can stick their aviation 'green' tax where the sun doesn't shine
k that.In a supermarket fire, people still waited at the checkouts,
they hadnt paid for the stuff in the trolly but were conditioned to it.
its human nature, like people enter a shop by one entrance, they will try to walk past the fire to get back out the same way, even passing exits on the way.
they hadnt paid for the stuff in the trolly but were conditioned to it.
its human nature, like people enter a shop by one entrance, they will try to walk past the fire to get back out the same way, even passing exits on the way.
On the glider idea - didn't those have a bit of a 'fall out the sky like a stone as soon as detached from tow plane' thing about them quite frequently?
On the pax who stopped to open lockers and remove their bags - most airlines have safety videos these day out side of the locust [sic] airlines. Why not make these people give up a couple of days of their time 'acting' in the next one rather than leave ne laughing at the androgynous cartoon figures.
As for people not listening to the safety briefing it is a tough one. I don’t fly every week like some but usually fly at least a couple of times a year and always clock the nearest, and next nearest, exit to me when boarding. I have a quick scan of the card in/on the back of the seat in front and get down to some reading and music if I am allowed the latter prior to being in the air. Honestly I probably listen to the briefing every couple of years and can’t really spot anything having changed in many years from the basics of Life vest under seat, oxygen here (tug sharply to start flow of O2, do yours before helping others), exits here, here, and here, this is how you do a seatbelt up, in the event of emergency put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye and should you be told to do/ not to do something by the crew, do/don’t do it. Oh and if you have to leave in a hurry GTFO and leave your stuff, removing anything that might puncture the slides. I am sure that there are many others who do the same.
On the pax who stopped to open lockers and remove their bags - most airlines have safety videos these day out side of the locust [sic] airlines. Why not make these people give up a couple of days of their time 'acting' in the next one rather than leave ne laughing at the androgynous cartoon figures.
As for people not listening to the safety briefing it is a tough one. I don’t fly every week like some but usually fly at least a couple of times a year and always clock the nearest, and next nearest, exit to me when boarding. I have a quick scan of the card in/on the back of the seat in front and get down to some reading and music if I am allowed the latter prior to being in the air. Honestly I probably listen to the briefing every couple of years and can’t really spot anything having changed in many years from the basics of Life vest under seat, oxygen here (tug sharply to start flow of O2, do yours before helping others), exits here, here, and here, this is how you do a seatbelt up, in the event of emergency put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye and should you be told to do/ not to do something by the crew, do/don’t do it. Oh and if you have to leave in a hurry GTFO and leave your stuff, removing anything that might puncture the slides. I am sure that there are many others who do the same.
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