Discussion
Hello boyos,
Picking your brains if I may.
Hyperthetically speaking, what would you like to see if somebody were to organise a Wedge only club?.
What sort of things would you like to see?
Members only website?
What sort of content?
Members only forum?
Wedge Regalia?
Wedge runs and meetings organised?
Cost of membership?
Obviously the TVRCC and Pistonheads fill any voids and I believe both do a fine job so is there a need for a Wedge only club??.
MikeB
Picking your brains if I may.
Hyperthetically speaking, what would you like to see if somebody were to organise a Wedge only club?.
What sort of things would you like to see?
Members only website?
What sort of content?
Members only forum?
Wedge Regalia?
Wedge runs and meetings organised?
Cost of membership?
Obviously the TVRCC and Pistonheads fill any voids and I believe both do a fine job so is there a need for a Wedge only club??.
MikeB
Count me in Mike. As regard a members fee - maybe its about time that we put something back into the running costs of the Wedgepages
Exclusive Members Polo shirts, car badges, negotiate discounts from parts suppliers, etc etc. Bring it on lets give it a go.
Nucleus maybe already exists with the Chicken Run?
Of course English members would be welcome
Did anybody mention the rugby
Exclusive Members Polo shirts, car badges, negotiate discounts from parts suppliers, etc etc. Bring it on lets give it a go.
Nucleus maybe already exists with the Chicken Run?
Of course English members would be welcome
Did anybody mention the rugby
I would not like to see a Wedge club outside the rest of the TVRCC. One of the strengths of the TVRCC (apart from the cars being still in production) is that it is the only club for TVR owners. It can have influence with the factory and parts suppliers etc. - not that Wedge owners have benefitted much from this yet.
Perhaps efforts would be better put into forming a Wedge register within TVRCC and perhaps funding a Wedge newsletter through an extra register subscription. But I don't know if this would be accepted by the current committee.
There is a lot to be gained from sticking with the others because of things like shared engines Wedge, Griff, Chimp and S for example. Many TVR owners buy another TVR - they ought to stay in the same club when they do - they might come back to Wedge ownership one day.
I have no problem with efforts like Mikes web-site - in fact I think they are great and I value the diversity this and other web-sites brings.
I have to declare an interest here as I was a committee member a while ago and I don't want to see what I consider to be a damaging split.
Russ
Perhaps efforts would be better put into forming a Wedge register within TVRCC and perhaps funding a Wedge newsletter through an extra register subscription. But I don't know if this would be accepted by the current committee.
There is a lot to be gained from sticking with the others because of things like shared engines Wedge, Griff, Chimp and S for example. Many TVR owners buy another TVR - they ought to stay in the same club when they do - they might come back to Wedge ownership one day.
I have no problem with efforts like Mikes web-site - in fact I think they are great and I value the diversity this and other web-sites brings.
I have to declare an interest here as I was a committee member a while ago and I don't want to see what I consider to be a damaging split.
Russ
I wasn't really talking of any possible 'Wedge club' replacing anything, just offering something more specific. Dedicated just to Wedges.
The more we get together the more potential power we have for getting things done. Organising getting parts fabricated, negotiating with suppliers for cheaper bits for 'members', putting pressure on people like leven to produce more Wedge bits, organising more Wedge runs on a more frequent basis a focal point for the Wedge community.
The TVRCC I feel do a good job and when people actually put the effort in and bother to send in pics and articles thay have been printed - which is excellent.
But I would like to sound out this issue.
MikeB
The more we get together the more potential power we have for getting things done. Organising getting parts fabricated, negotiating with suppliers for cheaper bits for 'members', putting pressure on people like leven to produce more Wedge bits, organising more Wedge runs on a more frequent basis a focal point for the Wedge community.
The TVRCC I feel do a good job and when people actually put the effort in and bother to send in pics and articles thay have been printed - which is excellent.
But I would like to sound out this issue.
MikeB
Mike wouldn't like to cause a split with the TVRCC I have been a member for many years and enjoyed every minute of it. However, they don't offer anything in the way of help to run the cars. I feel now that Wedges are at a junction where parts are getting difficult if not impossible to source. The price of the cars are so low that people will not buy them if the cost of repair is too high. If we don't do something to address this then more cars are going to the scrap heap. I for one don't want to see this and I would welcome an additional club that helps in the sourcing and supply of parts, technical help etc etc. Basically anything that preserves the marquee.
sevans said:
Mike wouldn't like to cause a split with the TVRCC I have been a member for many years and enjoyed every minute of it. However, they don't offer anything in the way of help to run the cars. I feel now that Wedges are at a junction where parts are getting difficult if not impossible to source. The price of the cars are so low that people will not buy them if the cost of repair is too high. If we don't do something to address this then more cars are going to the scrap heap. I for one don't want to see this and I would welcome an additional club that helps in the sourcing and supply of parts, technical help etc etc. Basically anything that preserves the marquee.
I'm with Steve on this 
I know this subject has been debated before but I don't see any difference in having a more specialized
"wedge club" to cater to the specific wedge breed and still being a member of the TVRCC, than we have here in the states with TVRCCNA members who have Griffiths also being members of the Griffith Club. It has been no problem for both entities to coexist here and, in fact, they complement each other quite well.
Mike, I say "go for it". If it is properly set up, it should be considered as a plus, rather than a negative.
"wedge club" to cater to the specific wedge breed and still being a member of the TVRCC, than we have here in the states with TVRCCNA members who have Griffiths also being members of the Griffith Club. It has been no problem for both entities to coexist here and, in fact, they complement each other quite well.
Mike, I say "go for it". If it is properly set up, it should be considered as a plus, rather than a negative.
stainless_steve said:
Mike wouldn't like to cause a split with the TVRCC I have been a member for many years and enjoyed every minute of it. However, they don't offer anything in the way of help to run the cars. I feel now that Wedges are at a junction where parts are getting difficult if not impossible to source. The price of the cars are so low that people will not buy them if the cost of repair is too high. If we don't do something to address this then more cars are going to the scrap heap. I for one don't want to see this and I would welcome an additional club that helps in the sourcing and supply of parts, technical help etc etc. Basically anything that preserves the marquee.
I'll second that. Have to say that it worries me that now the factory ain't stocking parts for the wedge stuff is going to be in short supply and/or become a lot more expensive...
sevans said:
I feel now that Wedges are at a junction where parts are getting difficult if not impossible to source. The price of the cars are so low that people will not buy them if the cost of repair is too high. If we don't do something to address this then more cars are going to the scrap heap.
Some really positive rumors floating around this part of the world recently. Top advice I've been given is to wait three months and ask this same question again.....
My guess is you will feel a lot happier.
If there's ever been a need for me making an anonymous post on PH then this is it.
I know nothing...
I support Steve's (SEvans) point. Within the TVR fraternity there's a large variety of cars from the old to the new. The one thing that brings many of us together is the TVR ownership. TVRCC supports this very well, by organising events, selling regalia , the magazine etc etc. However, the needs of the owners of each of the cars is different. The owner of a new Sagaris is probably not going to worry too much about how to remove a rusted in bolt from his rear suspension, where to buy a replacement starter motor, or who can refurbish his wood trim. He'll either be able to get it done by a dealer or buy it off the shelf. The age, and value of a Wedge means for many of us this is not practical. Equally, while I am sure there are many owners of the newer model TVRs who will modify their cars in a variety of ways, I suspect it won't be to the same extent as with Wedges or the older models. The PH forum is a fine example of why we can benefit from MikeB's proposal - just look at the number of postings on other TVR forums.
I see no reason why it has to be either TVRCC or Wedge CC. I, for one, would be a member of both.
I see no reason why it has to be either TVRCC or Wedge CC. I, for one, would be a member of both.
I'm with Gerry. Wedgers' needs and interests differ from what's on offer from the TVRCC. A dedicated club to help owners maintain a classic design must be a step in the right direction. The TVRCC and Sprint, seem to be aimed more at the owners of more modern, and may I suggest more expensive TVR products. I think as myself as a custodian of a rare piece of motoring history, that, at some stage, will pass into the hands of another caring owner. I'm sure a Wedge Club, with a suitable magazine can only help us all. That said it's interesting to read about the roundey shaped TVRs in Sprint too...
Nacnud said:
Top advice I've been given is to wait three months and ask this same question again.....
My guess is you will feel a lot happier.
If there's ever been a need for me making an anonymous post on PH then this is it.
I know nothing...
stainless_steve said:
Most of us know nothing Duncan
[RANT ON]
I really know nothing, and it's somewhat annoying seeing posts claiming to know where the factory wedge parts have gone and saying it's secret squirrel stuff but will be revealed in the fullness of time.
I personally feel that this is damaging to Wedgedom.
Potential Wedgers will be put off for fear of parts supply problems and existing owners may give up in desperation. Especially if they are off the road waiting for the fullness of time to come before they can get that bit that’s stopping it going!
This uncertainty could affect the value of our cars and accelerate their early demise into the scrap heap!
I personally don't have any doubt that they will appear again but I am concerned that we will be held to ransom for ex factory parts.
I sincerely hope that whatever entity now owns the consignment follows this forum and will speak up soonest and that they are a benevolent organisation hoping to cover their costs and make an honest/reasonable profit. If this isn't the case, I hope someone will make an anonymous announcement, or reply personally by email to those who express an interest.
[RANT OFF]
I thoroughly enjoy this forum and find it extremely useful to be able to call upon other owners' experience and expertise.
It is not in my nature to rant I just want to know what is going on, so please can we all know the fate of the now infamous factory parts?
Standing back and ducking in anticipation of being flamed
Leo
edited to add...BTW I would also be a memer of both TVRCC and BBWCC.
:-)
>> Edited by leorest on Monday 7th February 09:47
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