Undertaking
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nonegreen

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7,803 posts

300 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Just curious as to how many undertakes the average PHer is doing these days. They seem to be on the increase for me, I try not to but when I see numpties going for the 3day event overtake I have developed a habit of going round them on the inside, with a complete lane between us where possible. Anybody else seeing the same thing or is it just me?

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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nonegreen said:
Just curious as to how many undertakes the average PHer is doing these days. They seem to be on the increase for me, I try not to but when I see numpties going for the 3day event overtake I have developed a habit of going round them on the inside, with a complete lane between us where possible. Anybody else seeing the same thing or is it just me?


Too many Mind you, I was undertaken on a single carriageway road once. THAT was scary.

pwig

12,003 posts

300 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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autismuk said:

nonegreen said:
Just curious as to how many undertakes the average PHer is doing these days. They seem to be on the increase for me, I try not to but when I see numpties going for the 3day event overtake I have developed a habit of going round them on the inside, with a complete lane between us where possible. Anybody else seeing the same thing or is it just me?



Too many Mind you, I was undertaken on a single carriageway road once. THAT was scary.


How does that work then?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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I see many undertakes in lane 1, with lane 2 free and numpties in lane 3....

I personally wouldn't stop the undertaker (for want of a phrase), but instead Mr Numpty stuck in lane 3..

Certain Bavarian vehicles have that tendancy..
A colleage describes how a large magnet operates in the offside door, which is activated once on a motorway. The magnet pulls the car towards the central reserve crash barrier and it remains in the lane nearest to that (lane 3) for the entire journey)...when the driver wishes to leave the motorway, the magnet is switched off, thus allowing the vehicle to break free from the offside lane and then able to move into lanes 2 and 1 before entering the exit sliproad...

nonegreen

Original Poster:

7,803 posts

300 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Streetcop said:
I see many undertakes in lane 1, with lane 2 free and numpties in lane 3....

I personally wouldn't stop the undertaker (for want of a phrase), but instead Mr Numpty stuck in lane 3..

Certain Bavarian vehicles have that tendancy..
A colleage describes how a large magnet operates in the offside door, which is activated once on a motorway. The magnet pulls the car towards the central reserve crash barrier and it remains in the lane nearest to that (lane 3) for the entire journey)...when the driver wishes to leave the motorway, the magnet is switched off, thus allowing the vehicle to break free from the offside lane and then able to move into lanes 2 and 1 before entering the exit sliproad...


But can you charge the 3 series oops I mean car of Bavarian origin with "Causing stress by dangerous driving" ?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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nonegreen said:

But can you charge the 3 series oops I mean car of Bavarian origin with "Causing stress by dangerous driving" ?


The offence which I report for is: "Driving without reasonable consideration for other road users"

A few have been contested at court. Some have been found not guilty....others have had points/fine...

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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pwig said:

autismuk said:


Too many Mind you, I was undertaken on a single carriageway road once. THAT was scary.


How does that work then?


Was driving along a S/C road in South Norfolk, behind some old dearie doing about 25mph. Revved up tossermobile behind me, clearly very mad about said grannie.

Came to a straight bit of road. Overtook, gave dearie a fair bit of road space, prepared to move back left.

Then hear this engine going full bore. TMB nips back in the space to the left and tears off up the road as fast as he can.

Admittedly I did give maybe a bit over much on the space before pulling back in, but not that much ; maybe one and a half car lengths ?

tim.tonal

2,049 posts

263 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Aren't vehicles nose-to-tail in the outside lane of the motorway technically a queue, and therefore technically legit to undertake especially when the brake lights all come on?

An annoying thing is 2 lane dual carriageway - several miles before roundabout where traffic can turn right. Numpty occupies right hand lane for few miles before roundabout doing 50-65 with inside lane clear. No signal or lane discipline. Grrrr!


>> Edited by tim.tonal on Sunday 6th February 16:41

turbobloke

117,194 posts

290 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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tim.tonal said:
An annoying thing is 2 lane dual carriageway - several miles before roundabout where traffic can turn right. Numpty occupies right hand lane for few miles before roundabout doing 50-65 with inside lane clear. No signal or lane discipline. Grrrr!

Perfectly reasonable. Numpty isn't breaking the speed limit, and the message they get over and over again from "road safety experts" is that all you have to do to be safe and stop killing all those fluffy bunnies and happy children playing chicken actross a busy main road is ... don't speed

>> Edited by turbobloke on Sunday 6th February 17:29

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

271 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Streetcop said:
I see many undertakes in lane 1, with lane 2 free and numpties in lane 3....

I personally wouldn't stop the undertaker (for want of a phrase), but instead Mr Numpty stuck in lane 3..

Certain Bavarian vehicles have that tendancy..
A colleage describes how a large magnet operates in the offside door, which is activated once on a motorway. The magnet pulls the car towards the central reserve crash barrier and it remains in the lane nearest to that (lane 3) for the entire journey)...when the driver wishes to leave the motorway, the magnet is switched off, thus allowing the vehicle to break free from the offside lane and then able to move into lanes 2 and 1 before entering the exit sliproad...

Ah, you mean the 'BMW lane'. You'll have all sorts on your back soon, completely missing the point that stereotypes generally have to be earned.

havoc

33,385 posts

265 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Saw a classic yesterday:

Driving along 2-lane d-carriageway, just past a r-bout, am following a 206 which is overtaking at 55mph...i.e. about 2mph greater than the overtakee.

After reminding him of my presence and lack of patience , he finally pulls in...just! I pass him, pull back into lane 1, and what do I see...???

HE PULLED STRAIGHT BACK OUT INTO THE OUTSIDE LANE!!! The poor b'stards behind me were stuck with a choice of doing 55mph behind him ad nauseam, or undertaking!

5 words for that numpty:-

RTFHC - Read the flaming Highway Code

JoolzB

3,549 posts

279 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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nonegreen said:
Just curious as to how many undertakes the average PHer is doing these days.

I try not to either but do find myself doing it more and more often, I always give nobby in the outside lane plenty of time to check his mirror before I even think about doing it, my theory is that if he can't see me in his mirror he doesn't know I'm there so a quick blast past before he/she even realises there's a car behind him. The most annoying bit is when they still don't move over afterwards, often with more cars taking the same action.

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

281 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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nonegreen said:
Just curious as to how many undertakes the average PHer is doing these days. They seem to be on the increase for me, I try not to but when I see numpties going for the 3day event overtake I have developed a habit of going round them on the inside, with a complete lane between us where possible. Anybody else seeing the same thing or is it just me?


Probably averaging one a day at the moment but it depends if I am in my daily driver chavalier or my Audi S2 Turbo.

Whilst out in the Audi the right hand lane numpties gets two chances, a few seconds at a safe following distance with my RH indicator on, then if that fails a flash of the lights, and if no life detected a blast up the inside and a little wave

Cheers,

Steve

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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rsvmilly said:

Streetcop said:
I see many undertakes in lane 1, with lane 2 free and numpties in lane 3....

I personally wouldn't stop the undertaker (for want of a phrase), but instead Mr Numpty stuck in lane 3..

Certain Bavarian vehicles have that tendancy..
A colleage describes how a large magnet operates in the offside door, which is activated once on a motorway. The magnet pulls the car towards the central reserve crash barrier and it remains in the lane nearest to that (lane 3) for the entire journey)...when the driver wishes to leave the motorway, the magnet is switched off, thus allowing the vehicle to break free from the offside lane and then able to move into lanes 2 and 1 before entering the exit sliproad...


Ah, you mean the 'BMW lane'. You'll have all sorts on your back soon, completely missing the point that stereotypes generally have to be earned.
Yawn.

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

281 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Zod said:

rsvmilly said:


Streetcop said:
I see many undertakes in lane 1, with lane 2 free and numpties in lane 3....

I personally wouldn't stop the undertaker (for want of a phrase), but instead Mr Numpty stuck in lane 3..

Certain Bavarian vehicles have that tendancy..
A colleage describes how a large magnet operates in the offside door, which is activated once on a motorway. The magnet pulls the car towards the central reserve crash barrier and it remains in the lane nearest to that (lane 3) for the entire journey)...when the driver wishes to leave the motorway, the magnet is switched off, thus allowing the vehicle to break free from the offside lane and then able to move into lanes 2 and 1 before entering the exit sliproad...



Ah, you mean the 'BMW lane'. You'll have all sorts on your back soon, completely missing the point that stereotypes generally have to be earned.

Yawn.


Yeah, but yours is a SPECIAL BMW

Cheers,

Steve

Globulators

13,847 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Very funny about the magnet SC

I generally avoid undertaking unless there is a run-off lane (i.e. clear hard shoulder). It's safer certainly than getting all worked up and trying to 'educate' the numpty, something I'm really not interested in.

Once passed he is rapidly forgotten about and many numpties seem to expect you to pass that way anyway - they don't generally seem in the least surprised.

JULIANHJ

8,868 posts

292 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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I'm happy to sail up lane 1 at or below the spreed limit if there is a numpty arsing around in lane two or three. I'm quite keen on proper lane discipline, so try to stay in the innermost lane where possible. As such, pretty much every time I need to use a motorway I pass members of the Middle Lane Owners Club. When on occasion I glance across at said muppets, they always seem to be old duffers or women. Why is that?

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Fat Audi 80 said:

Zod said:


rsvmilly said:



Streetcop said:
I see many undertakes in lane 1, with lane 2 free and numpties in lane 3....

I personally wouldn't stop the undertaker (for want of a phrase), but instead Mr Numpty stuck in lane 3..

Certain Bavarian vehicles have that tendancy..
A colleage describes how a large magnet operates in the offside door, which is activated once on a motorway. The magnet pulls the car towards the central reserve crash barrier and it remains in the lane nearest to that (lane 3) for the entire journey)...when the driver wishes to leave the motorway, the magnet is switched off, thus allowing the vehicle to break free from the offside lane and then able to move into lanes 2 and 1 before entering the exit sliproad...




Ah, you mean the 'BMW lane'. You'll have all sorts on your back soon, completely missing the point that stereotypes generally have to be earned.


Yawn.



Yeah, but yours is a SPECIAL BMW

Cheers,

Steve

dilbert

7,741 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Not that it happens much these days, but when proper lane discipline works, I feel that the whole world is working well.

It's quick, it's involving, and I quite enjoy it.

cortinaman

3,230 posts

283 months

Monday 7th February 2005
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ive found im undertaking people at-least once a day,too and from work and its always in the same places and usually the same group of people driving the o.s.l hogging cars/vans......between the a132/a130 or rayleigh wier to southend and the drivers are either nurses going to southend hospital,builders/plumbers who refuse to move their p.o.s transits over even though the inside lane is totally empty or empty-headed nobends who sit in the o.s.l at 60 until they get 50ft from the a130 sliproad and then carve their way onto it.

ive got a routine down now.....i pull alongside and let rip with the airhorns as i pass....scares the shiteola out of em and they usually pull straight in!