LHD Porsche 964 C4 (C11 OOH) mileage check required!

LHD Porsche 964 C4 (C11 OOH) mileage check required!

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g7jhp

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Friday 18th September 2015
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Anyone looking at LHD 964 C4's might want to read this before looking at this car (C11 OOH).

Maybe a simple error but worth being aware and confirming with the previous owner.

Previously reg: F697DDY. First reg: 10/11/97 (presumed due to import date). MOT: 15/07/16. Tax: SORN.

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griffter

4,129 posts

268 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Maybe you could search completed listings and contact the vendor?

g7jhp

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Saturday 19th September 2015
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griffter said:
Maybe you could search completed listings and contact the vendor?
Original eBay listing with 100,150 miles quoted is here

Current eBay listing by Motoring Hub UK Ltd with 95,000 miles quoted is here

I guess more people will see a car as appealing if it's under 100k miles!

Edited by g7jhp on Saturday 19th September 10:10

ARAF

20,759 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Is it with a dealer?

Unfortunately it's not uncommon nowadays for dealers to clip mileages to make the advert more attractive - especially when it then means their cars appear in a search for 'under 100k miles' rather than be excluded.

When people then turn up, it's "Oh sorry, that's our mistake, but it's only 5k more"

Miss-advertising? Yes. Miss-selling? Probably not. Why would you screw with the history of a car for 5000 miles?

Or is your problem really the pricing? I guess £16k is cheap for a tidy 964 at the moment, so someone saw the opportunity to make a profit, and backed it with their money. I can't criticise that.

g7jhp

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Saturday 19th September 2015
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ARAF said:
Is it with a dealer?

Unfortunately it's not uncommon nowadays for dealers to clip mileages to make the advert more attractive - especially when it then means their cars appear in a search for 'under 100k miles' rather than be excluded.

When people then turn up, it's "Oh sorry, that's our mistake, but it's only 5k more"

Miss-advertising? Yes. Miss-selling? Probably not. Why would you screw with the history of a car for 5000 miles?

Or is your problem really the pricing? I guess £16k is cheap for a tidy 964 at the moment, so someone saw the opportunity to make a profit, and backed it with their money. I can't criticise that.
The original post, merely points out a discrepancy in mileage, which may be a trader stretching the truth or the car may have actually been clocked.

If someone does a search on the registration plate C11OOH or C11 OOH they should find this and it'll help them make a more informed decision.



sim16v

2,177 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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As said, could be to entice potential buyers, could have been clocked, or it could be a mistake!


I recently bought a car advertised as having done 225000 miles, but it had actually done 125000 miles.

Luckily I spotted the correct mileage on the MOT and the history backed it upbiggrin

birdcage

2,860 posts

218 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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The dealer has a LOT of form

thegreenhell

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232 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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On the face of it they have clocked ~5000 miles from the car, just the amount that the original advert says since the last service, so the odometer reading will still tally with the service history. It's a shame there is no legible photo of the speedo to confirm in either advert. Is this the sort of thing that can be reported to Trading Standards?

roygarth

2,674 posts

261 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Let's not beat around the bush. It's been clocked!! It'll probably be de-clocked pretty pronto now.

roygarth

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261 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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birdcage said:
The dealer has a LOT of form
True.

ARAF

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236 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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roygarth said:
Let's not beat around the bush. It's been clocked!! It'll probably be de-clocked pretty pronto now.
No, only the advert says a lower mileage. There is nothing to substantiate that the car has ever had 5k miles removed.

roygarth

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261 months

Sunday 20th September 2015
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ARAF said:
roygarth said:
Let's not beat around the bush. It's been clocked!! It'll probably be de-clocked pretty pronto now.
No, only the advert says a lower mileage. There is nothing to substantiate that the car has ever had 5k miles removed.
LOL

rubystone

11,254 posts

272 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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ARAF said:
No, only the advert says a lower mileage. There is nothing to substantiate that the car has ever had 5k miles removed.
Except a private eBay ad for the same car. I hope trading standards read this site. Clocking is a criminal offence isn't it?

ARAF

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236 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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rubystone said:
ARAF said:
No, only the advert says a lower mileage. There is nothing to substantiate that the car has ever had 5k miles removed.
Except a private eBay ad for the same car. I hope trading standards read this site. Clocking is a criminal offence isn't it?
Clocking is, but as I keep saying, my bet is that the car has NOT been clocked, and just the advert (whether intentional or not) is inaccurate.

That in itself is not illegal.

AD64

154 posts

189 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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its not on PH classifieds anymore, but it is on Autotrader....


Orangecurry

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219 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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ARAF said:
Clocking is, but as I keep saying, my bet is that the car has NOT been clocked, and just the advert (whether intentional or not) is inaccurate.

That in itself is not illegal.
On Autotrader, it is photographed beautifully in front of an old fence opposite a row of shops on the main road.

Zooming-in on one of these photos on Autotrader, the mileage is showing less than 100k without doubt, and either 80k or 90k, not 95k.

ETA actually the third digit could be a 5 or a 6 I suppose, but digit one is a zero.

Buyer beware.


Edited by Orangecurry on Monday 21st September 11:37

g7jhp

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251 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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New Autotrader ad is here

Picture of the speedo is below.

ARAF

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236 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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Which is totally at odds with both adverts, and would screw up the original reported service history. confused


I'll shut-up now. hehe

g7jhp

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Monday 21st September 2015
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ARAF said:
Which is totally at odds with both adverts, and would screw up the original reported service history. confused

I'll shut-up now. hehe
Unless of course they've clocked the car below their claimed 95,000 miles! wink

AD64

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189 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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