Wonder if anyone can help?
Wonder if anyone can help?
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turboslippers

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198 posts

271 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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I saw someone offer assistance the other week and it got me thinking. Would someone be kind enough to take a scenery pic I took last night, enhance it using photoshop and then just explain what you did and why?
I hope this doesn't come across as 'please fix my pictures' as I'm not after that, I'm genuinely interested to see what someone who really knows what they are doing ends up with versus what I will end up when I edit in photoshop. And then explains which settings were used and why.

My editing usually involves the excellent camera raw editor in photoshop but there is a reasonable amount of luck/guess work to my fiddling.

The image is a set of 5 bracketed exposures in DNG format taken at dusk of the sunset from my phantom 3 drone. They are not *that* sharp as it must have been a tad breezy and, of course, it's not a high end camera by any means. I am curious as to whether you would merge to HDR or just pick a single image and then adjust the levels in that.

If anyone is willing to help I'll zip the files up and post a link

regards
Ben

markmullen

15,877 posts

258 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Happy to help. I'm on duty tonight and at a wedding tomorrow so won't be till Sunday I can have a play.

jinkster

2,412 posts

180 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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This is a picture I took and edited last week.

I personally only use lightroom as I am a beginner. I can have a play if you like and see what I can do. Send me a PM and i'll give you my email. The forum only allows 2mb picture size to be uploaded.


ExPat2B

2,159 posts

224 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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Upload it to dropbox then share a link so we can all have a play :-)

rottie102

4,033 posts

208 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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I have 70 GB RAW photos from today...Anyone wants to sort that out for me while we're at it? wink

crmcatee

5,790 posts

251 months

Saturday 26th September 2015
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rottie102 said:
I have 70 GB RAW photos from today...Anyone wants to sort that out for me while we're at it? wink
Not a problem - send me a link and I'll delete the ones I don't like smile

turboslippers

Original Poster:

198 posts

271 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Cheers chaps, sorry, busy most of the weekend.....hopefully the link below gets to a ZIP file that contains 5 bracketed DNG images off the Phantom 3. As I said it's low light but was wondering what the you guys would do i.e take the one image with the sun not over exposed and then adjust shadows etc to bring the ground back. Or, combine using the HDR photo-merger etc etc.

http://expirebox.com/download/93721326ff2dec28f7e0...

I was out and about with it on Saturday primarily getting some video. I'd changed the saturation/sharpness/contrast down as general school of thought is the camera isn't great and sharpness as default adds in aliasing etc. With a bit of basic tweaking i ended up with below which I thought looked ok. Of course, I'm sure you're going to tell me it's awful and I've overdone the saturation etc etc smile

regards
Ben



Simpo Two

91,494 posts

289 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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It just looks a bit vignetted to me. The scene doesn't look that challenging - was it really a job for HDR?

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

215 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Had a play.

To be honest, I think the difference between the ground and sky are far too different to be able to recover a satisfactory image from just one file. Not saying it couldn't be done but would require a lot of work and still might not look great.

I took the lightest exposure and the darkest exposure and merged them together. A bit of dodge and burn in photoshop and colour balancing here and there and I got the above.

Probs not to everyones taste but there you go :P

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

289 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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turboslippers said:
Cheers chaps, sorry, busy most of the weekend.....hopefully the link below gets to a ZIP file that contains 5 bracketed DNG images off the Phantom 3. As I said it's low light but was wondering what the you guys would do i.e take the one image with the sun not over exposed and then adjust shadows etc to bring the ground back. Or, combine using the HDR photo-merger etc etc.

http://expirebox.com/download/93721326ff2dec28f7e0...
not sure I would make the ground lighter, I would just crop the ground out and make the sky have some drama.


turboslippers

Original Poster:

198 posts

271 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Simpo Two said:
It just looks a bit vignetted to me. The scene doesn't look that challenging - was it really a job for HDR?
Yes, I put a vignette on it as it graduated the sky at the top. Better to blend in a graduated blue image or mask and feather a bit at the top? It wasn't a HDR image though? Just a standard single DNG...

Mysterylemon, good effort, thanks. So what specifically did you do to bring the buildings out...the white really stands out? Yeah, not a great set of images to start with but just intrigued how someone who knows what they are doing would do with a compromised shot like that.

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

215 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Made adjustments in camera raw importing into photoshop. Mainly using curves to bring up the darks, keeping shadows dark though, then bringing up the highlights for the whites etc.

Then when in photoshop, using levels to bring up the highlights and midrange to suit etc. The merge is across the horizon, feathered into the sky pic considerably to get a nice blend. Also burned the shadows across the horizon to help blend it better.

Sorry I cant be more detailed, I just kinda do it and then its done, I could do it again and pay more attention this time biggrin

turboslippers

Original Poster:

198 posts

271 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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PorscheGT4....funny how a simple crop can completely change the picture...just focus on the sky...simple really and makes a reasonably nice pic. Ta

Mysterylemon, don't worry...wasn't expecting a video tutorial. Now you've explained that makes sense...can go away and try similar to improve understanding. Like what you did with the shadows across the horizon...neat touch.

Simpo Two

91,494 posts

289 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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turboslippers said:
Yes, I put a vignette on it as it graduated the sky at the top. Better to blend in a graduated blue image or mask and feather a bit at the top? It wasn't a HDR image though? Just a standard single DNG...
Ah, I thought the photo you posted was the photo in question...

I like to blend images maually using the Erase tool in various sizes, opacities and edge softness.

ManFromDelmonte

2,744 posts

204 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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I went off piste as I couldn't get anything I was happy with just by playing in Lightroom in the usual way. I don't really like the finished product but it's different so I'm posting it.