Air Miss records?

[CAPP0]

Are these logged anywhere? Reason I ask: my office is fairly near to LCY and when the planes climb out in a westerly direction (rwy 27?) they head past my window as they turn north to avoid Canary Wharf. It so happens that the eastern approach into LHR also runs over here, north to south, so, there is a lot of air traffic on any given day. Yesterday, something took off from LCY and climbed much more steeply than usual, so it was clearly a lot higher by the time it traversed the LHR route. Don't know why, maybe it was empty. At the same time, of course, something was on the LHR route.

Now I know perspective counts for a lot, and on top of that I've never been any good at estimating altitude from the ground, but given what the relative sizes of the two planes were as they passed each other, it's difficult to believe that there was > 1000ft of separation.

Just curious anyway, nobody died!

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

They are not called 'Airmisses'any more. In fact they haven't been termed that for nearly 20 years; they are now referred to as AIRPROXES.

Records can ve found here:

http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/default.aspx?catid=...

[anonymous-user]

CAPP0 said:

Are these logged anywhere? Reason I ask: my office is fairly near to LCY and when the planes climb out in a westerly direction (rwy 27?) they head past my window as they turn north to avoid Canary Wharf. It so happens that the eastern approach into LHR also runs over here, north to south, so, there is a lot of air traffic on any given day. Yesterday, something took off from LCY and climbed much more steeply than usual, so it was clearly a lot higher by the time it traversed the LHR route. Don't know why, maybe it was empty. At the same time, of course, something was on the LHR route.

Now I know perspective counts for a lot, and on top of that I've never been any good at estimating altitude from the ground, but given what the relative sizes of the two planes were as they passed each other, it's difficult to believe that there was > 1000ft of separation.

Just curious anyway, nobody died!

Have a look on flight radar 24 you can put in the date and time and see what was overhead. London is well covered. The times might be in utc or GMT so just subtract an hour from the time you saw the event,

[Prawo Jazdy]

It's very difficult to assess relative levels of aircraft from the ground. Incidents with City departures vs. LHR inbounds have happened in the past , but rest assured there are many safeguards in place. For a start, the standard departures only climb to 3000', whereas LHR inbounds on base are usually at 4000'. Then there is a controller monitoring the aircraft. If they make a mistake or miss something, there's Short Term Collision Alert to highlight the conflict on radar. On the aircraft there are pilots with both their eyes and TCAS to help them avoid a collision. ATC also have Separation Monitoring Function, to make a note of any instances where the minima have been breached, for later analysis.