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bjones

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928 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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I'll be brief.

I have (or will have) 18K to spend.

I want a convertible Porsche. I will be using it everyday to do a 50 mile round trip to work and back, all year round.

Boxster (2.5, 2.7?) or decent 964.
Love 964s, scared of the running costs that may follow. Like Boxsters, but not as 'special' as a 964.

Please help !

(currently have a Marcos and a Corrado, looking at merging the two into one usable but quick car).

roygarth

2,674 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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964! £18K will buy you a low mileage LHD or medium mileage RHD as long as you buy privately. Make sure you get expert, not AA, pre-purchase inspection.

James s

1,620 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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lhd 1990 turbo at 911virgin.com
please buy it so I can stop looking at it

johnny senna

4,073 posts

293 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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bjones said:
I'll be brief.

I have (or will have) 18K to spend.

I want a convertible Porsche. I will be using it everyday to do a 50 mile round trip to work and back, all year round.

Boxster (2.5, 2.7?) or decent 964.
Love 964s, scared of the running costs that may follow. Like Boxsters, but not as 'special' as a 964.

Please help !

(currently have a Marcos and a Corrado, looking at merging the two into one usable but quick car).



You need to drive both. They are more different that could possibly imagine! I've driven both you know.

For your needs, I would probably go for the Boxster. They are cheap to run, good on fuel and very refined. They aren't boring when pressing on, but they are relaxing when cruising along.

My mate is selling a W reg 2.7 for 20 grand. The car still feels pretty new to me. I recently sold my Boxster S 3.2 for a very low price. If you can stretch to one of those (I bet you could get one for 21 grand no problem) then that car is the one to have.

By the way, 2.7s aren't as slow as you might think. On country lanes you would travel faster than in a 964.

Melv

4,708 posts

286 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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Let your heart rule your head.........964

But budget on £2-4K running costs and repairs....

Have fun!

Rgds
Mel

bjones

Original Poster:

928 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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4K, per annum?

LHD Boxster S?

Don

28,378 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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Boxster. Practical. Modern. Reliable(ish). Fast enough. Stunning handling. The S if you can - and you'll be going past more powerful machinery on trackdays...

oldtimer

300 posts

277 months

Tuesday 8th February 2005
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trackdays ? who mentioned trackdays ?
I'm with Melv , forget about being sensible if you like the look of a 964 cab then get one. If you dont mind LHD you will have plenty money left over for the maintenance fund. If you get a good one where someone else has already spent the money on things that wear out / maintenance then so much the better.
If you dont like the word 'maintenance' then you are better off with the boxster, even allowing for the dreaded RMS...

iguana

7,260 posts

281 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Indeed 964 & Box are very different types of car.

Drive a 2.5 & then make ya mind up, they are not quick in sports car terms- more hot hatch, yeah handle great, but really if its Box on ya mind then IMHO the S is really the only one to consider.

2.7 I've not driven so can't really pass any constrcutive judgement.

bjones

Original Poster:

928 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Thanks for the input.
Still sort of on the fence between a) actually doing it b) 964 c) Boxster.

I sort of thought it might be an 'S' to get anywhere near performance of a 911.
So, how much would a decent LHD 911 be. Let's assume it's a late one, so DMF, dizzy breather issues etc. (any more serious problems?) are sorted. Is this REALLY a car you could reliably use every day?
Also consider a LHD Box S (or a 2.7). I've a feeling this one will be the more 'sensible' option (sorry for using that word). Are all RMS problems related to individual cars or is it a global design fault that affects ALL Boxsters?

This topic has probably been done to death before, I really appreciate the input though - it's quite a big decision in terms of choosing the right motor and financially!

Thanks

ettore

4,745 posts

273 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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RMS relates to individual cars - avoid those that have had multiple replacements. I`ve done over 60K miles in Boxsters and never had any problem.

My advice, if this is an everyday car, is definitely the boxster. The 2.7 is a perfectly decent and rapid car (quicker then the 2.5) but I would opt for the S if you can...

softinthehead

1,550 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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nah, youre all wrong
964 a great car, now getting a little dated perhaps (says he peeking tremulously over the parapet) 18K may well buy a good spec RHD but wont run it, is it really honestly a reliable daily drive??
boxster 2.5 - hmmm, a bit dull. performance doesnt match the image. 2.7 perhaps BUT
what you need is a really good 968 cab - manual obligatory. great looks, modern drive, quicker than the 2.5 boxster, probably quicker than the 2.7, handles superbly (just as well in its own way as the boxster and far more predictably than the 964), two functional rear seats and a boot that will take the shopping, a very reliable daily drive, no one else you know will have one, parts are cheap, maintenance is cheap (compared to a 964), no RMS failures to worry about (yes yes, someone will mention cams at this point).
and you will still have 4-5K change from your 18K budget, which you can spend on trackdays for the next 5 years.
Of course it may take you ages to find one (took me 18months). having offended a significant chunk of the PH forum I will now retire gracefully....

douglasr

1,092 posts

293 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Download the buyers guides here:

www.hartech.org.uk/

james_j

3,996 posts

276 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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964, but having got it checked thoroughly, also try to get a warranty at least for the first year of ownership.

bjones

Original Poster:

928 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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968 - bloody hell, that's confused things!
Everybody has valid points. As much as I like 964s, I think maybe this would be the wrong choice for ME. I can be doing without having a stash of money poked down it's neck - shame.
Boxster - needs to be at least a 2.7, S would be preferable. It's also a relatively 'young' car, compared to all the cars I've had before, never newer than a '94, they do have age related problems.
968 has been at the back of my mind. Need more convincing that this is a better choice than a Boxster though. You are right about it's exclusivity however, which is appealing!

softinthehead

1,550 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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have a look at the pic on my profile. I think its the dogs danglers, but then I am biased. the handling is wonderful - i know theres been lots of argument over 944 handling in the wet on a recent thread but really, ive not had any problems. its a great car - excellent secure hood mechanism, as I said, a more modern drive by far then the 944, the suspension set up, even standard, is much firmer and it just sticks like glue to the road. you need to keep the revs above about 3500 to get the best from it but with a close ratio 6 speed box this is pretty easy. I use mine as a daily drive/work car, covering about 3oo mies a week. it takes my 2 daughters to school with 2 sets of school bags, 2 games kits, a clarinet and a half size cello in the boot. both of them grin stupidly as I drop them off.
i went throught he same heart vs head debate but couldnt in confidence go for a 964 as my only car. I think the 968 cab satisfies head and heart. but I'd avoid the tiptronic unless you live in the city - the performance is rather pedestrian

paultje

1,042 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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I tend to agree with Tim..the 968 cab is a good (often overlooked) choice..if you can find a good one.
Then an upgrade, later on, to a 993 bypassing the 964 /Boxter altogether.

shed17

246 posts

257 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Which is exactley what I did, 968 Cab then 993

Don

28,378 posts

305 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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The 968 is damn fine car. And a yellow Cabrio driven spiritedly at PCGB day was going very, very well.

More exclusive? Certainly.

But they are an older car...

Its going to depend on what you want!

TEST DRIVES...

Dakkon

7,827 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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What you really want is a nice 3.2 Carerra Sport and you will have plenty of cash left over if any goes wrong (I may be a little biased though)