VW Recall, Compensation? Recall ? What the hell for!
VW Recall, Compensation? Recall ? What the hell for!
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crashrepairman

Original Poster:

234 posts

219 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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My wife's Eos is on the list of Vin numbers to be recalled, the first thing is I had it remapped get much better economy (70mpg) and power 190 bhp it's running perfect so I won't be getting it altered by Vw.
But what's all the crap about compensation? I don't deserve any! The only people that can claim compensation are the government as they are the only ones that have lost out financially due to under paid road fund licence?
If this compensation business gets out of hand thousands of people will lose their livelyhoods.

Kell

1,708 posts

239 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I'm not saying that people SHOULD be compensated, but...

With the knee-jerk reaction to this, resale values will be affected as less people will desire a 2nd hand Passat (for example) and values will drop.

Of course, when you buy a car, there's no guarantee as to what it will be worth at the end of your ownership, and therefore it's a risk we all take, but residual values will affect private buyers, and the companies that run PCP schemes.

Cemesis

771 posts

193 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I bought my 2012 1.6 Greenline Superb brand new as I do a decent mileage every year and I wanted to get the most efficient large car I could. If Skoda alter it and the result is a less efficient car then I won't be happy. I had planned to keep the car a long time so I would end up out of pocket year after year because VAG lied.

Sounds like a convincing argument for compensation to me.

Glosphil

4,893 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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crashrepairman said:
My wife's Eos is on the list of Vin numbers to be recalled, the first thing is I had it remapped get much better economy (70mpg) and power 190 bhp it's running perfect so I won't be getting it altered by Vw.
But what's all the crap about compensation? I don't deserve any! The only people that can claim compensation are the government as they are the only ones that have lost out financially due to under paid road fund licence?
If this compensation business gets out of hand thousands of people will lose their livelyhoods.
"Under paid road fund licence"? The 'cheat' was to reduce NOx output, butroad fund licence cost is based on CO2, so where does the 'under paid' come from?.

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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Nope; whole compensation thing is bullst. It's the automotive equivalent of ambulance chasing.

pfnsht

2,569 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th October 2015
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I don't think there will be any compensation. However what I worry about is what those changed settings will do to our cars longevity - EGR, DPF etc.

In my mind the car was built to meet certain requirements and whatever this software is going to do will change them so how do I know the rest of the car is going to handle it. I heard reducing Nox can somehow put more strain on the EGR. Don't know enough about it to be honest.


icepop

1,180 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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Just received a letter from SEAT, informing me that my car will be recalled for attention, as it's one of the vehicles effected, Toledo 1.6tdi. Have read elsewhere that it will be injectors and 'cheat' removed from ECU, ECU only on 2lt engine. Car will be on 85k at this point, so new, free of charge, injectors will be welcome.

Re, the above comments, I thought the cheat only worked when on 'test conditions', so wont the normal running conditions stay the same as they are now, and not effect the rest of the components ?

crashrepairman

Original Poster:

234 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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If it ain't broke don't fix it! Why remove the cheat? Not cheating me?

Stevemr

950 posts

187 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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My Passat 1.6 tdi (12/2013) was valued by we buy any car on 19/09 at £10900 ( I was getting an idea what its worth as I have a new car on order.)

Out of interest I did another valuation with we buy any car on 12/10 same mileage. Value £10375.

So in just over 3 weeks , my VW has lost £525.

At this age it would normally lose £200 a month.

barryrs

5,047 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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I suspect that's got more to do with being closer to the impending 15 plate release date than any negative press.

crashrepairman

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234 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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Why would your car be worth less due to this recall? You could argue it might be worth more as if compensation is paid to current owners! If as a result it does less mpg why touch it? Can't understand why Vw are not arguing that under exam conditions it does what it says on the tin! Immoral maybe but illegal- No! An apology for misleading is all that's required.

crashrepairman

Original Poster:

234 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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If it ain't broke don't fix it! Why remove the cheat? Not cheating me?

RammyMP

7,741 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th October 2015
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icepop said:
Just received a letter from SEAT, informing me that my car will be recalled for attention, as it's one of the vehicles effected, Toledo 1.6tdi. Have read elsewhere that it will be injectors and 'cheat' removed from ECU, ECU only on 2lt engine. Car will be on 85k at this point, so new, free of charge, injectors will be welcome.

Re, the above comments, I thought the cheat only worked when on 'test conditions', so wont the normal running conditions stay the same as they are now, and not effect the rest of the components ?
The cheat condition reduces Nox emissions, the rest of the time you drive the car you will have power. The ECU map will reduce the nox output of the engine all the time, by doing this the performance of the engine will be reduced. The recall will potentially reduce engine power and maybe MPG. There is talk of installing adblue systems also to some models.

icepop

1,180 posts

238 months

Friday 16th October 2015
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Right, so the 'cheat' is not a stand alone system, and a new map will be flashed to the ECU ? Might this be the reason for the new injectors fitted to the 1.6 tdi to perhaps to re-instate lost power....I guess thro' more fuel.....less mpg.....I see your point !