RE: Astra Tat
Thursday 15th August 2002

Astra Tat

High quality bolt ons for your Vauxhall


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cpn

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7,760 posts

300 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Ted, I can't help thinking you missed out the W in the topic title!

smeagol

1,947 posts

304 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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brilliant Ted. Could anyone explain why people put body kits etc. on a van I'm

Podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Like Duh! Makes it look wikkid!

I think it all comes down to the fact that people want to make their cars different to everyone else. Doesn't matter if it's a knackered old XR2, a van or a TVR.. people like to personalise it a bit.. or make it better.

HOWEVER, the issue of taste, intelligence and knowledge (and money) are the variable factors...

M@H

11,298 posts

292 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Ted, I can't help thinking you missed out the W in the topic title!


I thought exactly that before even opening the thread

ap_smith

1,999 posts

286 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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I hired an Astra yesterday, only 'cos they had run out of Focuses. Jesus, what a pile of shite.

I thought the journos had praised the chassis and handling? I found it nervous and twitchy with the chassis flexing all over the show. Maybe I'm comparing it to the Scooby which is unfair, but bloody hell - what a crap car.

cpn

Original Poster:

7,760 posts

300 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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There is no accounting for some people. Last night I saw a bright orange Metro cruising around Maidenhead wtih blacked out windows and no bumpers, blasting out Scooter on the stereo. I could not help but remember the Jaffa Orange mini based cars they used to keep in a garage in Tring.

Cool no, but the small ones are more juicy

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

288 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Sod chucking cr@p on the van just run it into the ground as vauhall intended

Cotty

41,668 posts

304 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Ok I am going to chuck the cat among the pigeons with this one but I think it looks good.

I am all opposed to nova boys bolting rubbish to their cars but where do you draw the line. Example a E30 325i BMW with M3 arches, crap? The original ethos was that it was done to fit larger wheels/tyers, so is doing it after the car left the factory uncool. Is a factory fit bodykit ok, would the last M3 have the same kudos without the spoilers.

If Vauxhal had built the van with metal spoilers as an integeral part of the bodywork ala E30 M3 would that be ok? or is it that they have been added later in GRP a problem?.

My E30 325i was bought second hand but has a factory fit front spoiler, is that ok or will I be slagged off if it did not come with it and I added it, or should I now remove it as I fall under the banner of a bolt on boy?.

AJLintern

4,329 posts

283 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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I think the main problem people have with bolting bits of plastic to mundane cars is that the people that do it are trying to make it appear as something its not - ie - a proper car. Like these Nova boys spending £10k trying to make there car look cool when they could have spent the money on a car that IS cool

annom

4 posts

280 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Some novas are actually quite good? Believe it or not, I have seen a nova beat a new shape WRX at santa pod... and it would have cost the owner loads less than 1/2 the price of a shiney wrx!

philshort

8,293 posts

297 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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You can make anything go fast in a straight line, but does that make it "good", in the desirable sense? I think not!

Esprit

6,373 posts

303 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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Ted, those door mirrors you've got for sale.... are they still there? I NEED a set of them man.... could you hold them for me? (if they haven't already gone) I calculate that in NZ dollars, 14 K quid works out to be about $45,000,000 which is a BARGAIN.... you know the numbers Ted.... just dial 'em

Podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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Some novas are actually quite good? Believe it or not, I have seen a nova beat a new shape WRX at santa pod... and it would have cost the owner loads less than 1/2 the price of a shiney wrx!



As philshort said - you can make anything go in a straight line... but how much of it was REALLY Nova, or was it a spaceframe with a Nova body on it... and either way, the Nova shape is hardly pretty is it?

aww999

2,078 posts

281 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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The phrase here is "You can't polish a turd". A boring econobox car or van or whatever will still be sh1te no matter how much you try and disguise it with plastic add-ons and chromaflair paint!

annom

4 posts

280 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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Apart from the engine it was mainly as vauxhall intended. The engine was a 2ltr 8v, with a turbo and NO2.

And I have been in 1.4 novas that go round Race Cicuits faster than Elises etc!

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

288 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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I hired an Astra yesterday, only 'cos they had run out of Focuses. Jesus, what a pile of shite.

I thought the journos had praised the chassis and handling? I found it nervous and twitchy with the chassis flexing all over the show. Maybe I'm comparing it to the Scooby which is unfair, but bloody hell - what a crap car.



your right the handlings crap , Very nervy ,handling by lotus would you belive , Lettuce moelike , ive just had a close shave with a tractor in mine and its totally destroyed the rear shock on the passengers side , Handles worse now like its got a flat tyre

Toffer

1,528 posts

281 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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Apart from the engine it was mainly as vauxhall intended. The engine was a 2ltr 8v, with a turbo and NO2.

And I have been in 1.4 novas that go round Race Cicuits faster than Elises etc!



An Elise is powered by a hairdryer...so what?

I've seen them burnt out in a layby...so what?

You see a NOVA, loud ICE, loud exhaust, loud paintjob...you think tosser...you are never wrong!

If it does not fit the above descrption it is either an 18 year old student..and mum & dad bought the car or else it is a NUMPTY

Dave_H

996 posts

303 months

Friday 16th August 2002
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You see a NOVA, loud ICE, loud exhaust, loud paintjob...you think tosser...you are never wrong!



I always think that when I see bolt-on-boys Nova outside Halfords, and then you go inside and spot him looking through the glass of "W@nkers Window" drooling over some shiney peice of bolt-on crap that costs £50 that does nothing.

annom

4 posts

280 months

Saturday 17th August 2002
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Well everyone has to start somewhere... and not everypone can afford TVRs and alike.

No matter how much you deny it Boy Racers are a very similar breed to any car enhusiast, its just they are younger, poorer, and can't get insured on anything better... BUT at least they are trying.

RCA

1,769 posts

288 months

Saturday 17th August 2002
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nice one annom, at least someone on here is open minded!!!!, as you say they are only doing the best with what they have got, might not be to everyone ones taste but fair play to them, I used to be what you would class as a bolt on boy until I could afford a TVR!!! Most of them are decent blokes (and girls) who are just very interested in cars (like most of us on here!!), but the odd one is a complete w@nker who gives them all bad names!!!