A. Manning. Whopping saving on insurance...
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A. Manning have just done the business on insurance for my car.
Through my previous broker I was quoted £1250 with £105 per track day (currently £525 for what I've booked so far.) A whopping total of £1775 for the year. That and the on-track insurance is somewhat limited.
My new policy will be through A.Manning with Cornhill. £870. PCGB days are free...with a small additional excess. A saving (on current Track Day bookings) of £905 for bothering to make a phone call and posting them photocopies of the usual documentation.
Stunning. I know someone's bound to say they got it cheaper elsewhere. But I can tell you I'm pretty damn happy. RESULT!
Through my previous broker I was quoted £1250 with £105 per track day (currently £525 for what I've booked so far.) A whopping total of £1775 for the year. That and the on-track insurance is somewhat limited.
My new policy will be through A.Manning with Cornhill. £870. PCGB days are free...with a small additional excess. A saving (on current Track Day bookings) of £905 for bothering to make a phone call and posting them photocopies of the usual documentation.
Stunning. I know someone's bound to say they got it cheaper elsewhere. But I can tell you I'm pretty damn happy. RESULT!
big.bad.wolfie said:
Performance Marque recommended them when they couldn't provide a competitive quote.
Did they indeed! Its a shame for Perf. Marque. RSA/NU together basically scuppered their Porsche business.
RSAs policy is highly uncompetetive now...still - if RSA just don't want the business as they view as being too costly then they don't want it!
I know it's been mentioned before, but Chris Wilkins @ Bickley Insurance is a broker who offers NU policies, with cover for any track (other than the 'Ring - which is specifically excluded). I currently have to pay £79 for each day.
Half the GT3 Titanic guys seem to use them....
Don. Sounds like you're a happy man anyway. That's what counts at the end of the day!
Half the GT3 Titanic guys seem to use them....
Don. Sounds like you're a happy man anyway. That's what counts at the end of the day!
Beat this for a complete turnaround from an insurer.
My car is a highly modified 1983 SC
Mods are
Wide body conversion
Turbo brakes, suspension
993 engine conversion
I'm 30 and live in Canary Wharf. However, C Wharf has an East End postcode and hence this loads the premium (especially if you don't have a garage like me)
Anyway, I am considering a 9M supercharger conversion and thought I'd better get a few insurance quotes first.
I rang up this insurer and they pretty much laughed at me when I mentioned the supercharger saying I'd have no chance in getting any cover.
However, these insurers also insure my brother's 3.2 so I thought I'd get him to get a quote on my behalf (ie not what you know but who you know etc).
They came back with by far the most competitive quote - just over £900!!! I think that they must perceive my brother to be a good risk and so applied the same 'logic' to me.
So, in summary, they went from laughing at me down the phone to providing the best quote on the market in the space of 48 hours.
My car is a highly modified 1983 SC
Mods are
Wide body conversion
Turbo brakes, suspension
993 engine conversion
I'm 30 and live in Canary Wharf. However, C Wharf has an East End postcode and hence this loads the premium (especially if you don't have a garage like me)
Anyway, I am considering a 9M supercharger conversion and thought I'd better get a few insurance quotes first.
I rang up this insurer and they pretty much laughed at me when I mentioned the supercharger saying I'd have no chance in getting any cover.
However, these insurers also insure my brother's 3.2 so I thought I'd get him to get a quote on my behalf (ie not what you know but who you know etc).
They came back with by far the most competitive quote - just over £900!!! I think that they must perceive my brother to be a good risk and so applied the same 'logic' to me.
So, in summary, they went from laughing at me down the phone to providing the best quote on the market in the space of 48 hours.
helen goff said:
but so far i haven't received the proper paperwork only a cover note and its now a month.
Last year it took Performance Marque over five months to get me a real certificate. RSA were having systems problems it appeared. The cover was still good, though, so its not a problem...
fergus said:
I know it's been mentioned before, but Chris Wilkins @ Bickley Insurance is a broker who offers NU policies, with cover for any track (other than the 'Ring - which is specifically excluded). I currently have to pay £79 for each day.
But the 'ring isn't a 'track', its a toll road!! I suppose thats why they explicitly exclude it...
Don said:
Can you please post the details to contact them?
THX
JM
A Manning (01491 578759)
doh!
Before you phone, bear in mind that they insist that you join the Porsche Car club. I told them I don't join clubs. They said no deal. I said bye.
...idiots
anyone know of another 'competetive' insurer?, I'm currently with Liverpool-Victoria. But they have decided to hike my premium UP by £250!, and gave some inane answers to my queries as to why this should be so.
Performance Marque who I was with for a few years have now priced themselves out of the game...?
I go through this crap every year (own a few cars), and the government just sit on their hands while this legalised extortion ritual takes place beneath their very judical noses... if ever an industry sector needed investigating and proper fair regulations, I couldn't think of a better example. And before any of you jump on the free-market soap box, bear in mind that the difference with this industry is we are legally bound to buy its services...
Dr Strangelove said:
jrotsaert said:
Can you please post the details to contact them?
THX
JM
A Manning (01491 578759)
doh!
Before you phone, bear in mind that they insist that you join the Porsche Car club. I told them I don't join clubs. They said no deal. I said bye.
...idiots
anyone know of another 'competetive' insurer?, I'm currently with Liverpool-Victoria. But they have decided to hike my premium UP by £250!, and gave some inane answers to my queries as to why this should be so.
Performance Marque who I was with for a few years have now priced themselves out of the game...?
I go through this crap every year (own a few cars), and the government just sit on their hands while this legalised extortion ritual takes place beneath their very judical noses... if ever an industry sector needed investigating and proper fair regulations, I couldn't think of a better example. And before any of you jump on the free-market soap box, bear in mind that the difference with this industry is we are legally bound to buy its services...
Hmmm, LV hike premiums by £250, but PCCB membership is about £40...
Dr Strangelove said:
Before you phone, bear in mind that they insist that you join the Porsche Car club. I told them I don't join clubs. They said no deal. I said bye.
Compare their quote taking into account the £60 to join the PCGB, then. I did this and still saved an absolute mint.
Performance Marque insisted on club membership for Track Day cover too - until they withdrew it.
I look at it this way.
£300 or so per track day for single event insurance.
vs
FREE PCGB Track Day Cover.
PLUS a quote that was cheaper than ALL the alternatives - including Direct Line etc who are cheap but offer no track day cover at all.
OK - so I'm limited to PCGB days on the free cover. I still saved money, get a magazine each month and can decide whether or not to bother with anything at all the PCGB is up to.
If its a matter of principle to you that you don't join a club fair enough. But for me...it would have been throwing money away.
Don said:
Before you phone, bear in mind that they insist that you join the Porsche Car club. I told them I don't join clubs. They said no deal. I said bye.
Compare their quote taking into account the £60 to join the PCGB, then. I did this and still saved an absolute mint.
Performance Marque insisted on club membership for Track Day cover too - until they withdrew it.
I look at it this way.
£300 or so per track day for single event insurance.
vs
FREE PCGB Track Day Cover.
PLUS a quote that was cheaper than ALL the alternatives - including Direct Line etc who are cheap but offer no track day cover at all.
OK - so I'm limited to PCGB days on the free cover. I still saved money, get a magazine each month and can decide whether or not to bother with anything at all the PCGB is up to.
If its a matter of principle to you that you don't join a club fair enough. But for me...it would have been throwing money away.
Don & JohnF,
I take your point(s) about cutting off my financial nose to spite my face. The maths speak for themselves. It's just that i get annoyed when they insist I join a club before they will even give me a quote. This was at the tale end of phoning 'round various racketeers and speaking to crib-sheet specialists... Maybe it's just me and the ensuing fatigue, but on top of giving all my personal details to these 'humanbots', including how many children I may have!..., Manning insist I join a club. It just reinforces my view that this crappy society is legalised and run soley for the benefit of business, and very little else... The money becomes irrelevant the day they insist on legislating how you can spend it. If ever an industry was ripe for nationlisation it's that one. Just imagine if the government ran it on a none or fixed profit basis. We would all benefit, people would still keep their jobs, etc. am i mad, a porsche driving closet socialist, or both?
Chris @ Bickley insurance did the business for me - MUCH cheaper than anyone else for my Mk1 GT3 (plus he actually acknowledged the existence of the Mk1 car...which is something a lot of other insurers failed to do...I very rapidly got SICK of 'are you sure it's not a C2?')
I got my paperwork 2 days after payment, and he sent the document to my dealer so he could tax the car pre-pickup!
His details are on some other posts if you do a search - great service!
I got my paperwork 2 days after payment, and he sent the document to my dealer so he could tax the car pre-pickup!
His details are on some other posts if you do a search - great service!
How recent is it that Perf. Marque has stopped doing trackdays. I have two cars with PF/RSA and they recently had no problems covering me for PCGB trackdays or indeed tracksdays for my Aston Martin. I held Perf. Marque up against Privilege and PM came out 200 pounds cheaper, allocating my no claims to two cars and doing PCGB trackdays - so great service and no problems so far.
I had to renew my insurance last October time IIRC - and it was a problem then. The issue was with Performance Marque's "supplier" RSA who had, at the time, decided to with draw free PCGB track day cover and do a day by day policy (just like Norwich Union) requiring advance notification of track days and about £75 - £100 a time.
Since I do six PCGB days a year this meant that not only had the premium gone up by a few hundred quid I was also going to be into another £600 or so.
By going with A Manning I got PCGB days free - saving the £600 and got a premium that was cheaper. Result.
Now. At the time I was absolutely clear to Performance Marque that they had lost the business - NOT because of ANY problems with their service or the insurance cover provided - but because that their price had gone from being a little expensive - but being good value thanks to the free PCGB cover - to being highly uncompetetive in comparison to what I could get elsewhere.
I have a suspicion that, by now, they (PM) will have renegotiated and got their old terms back with their underwriters as they must have lost a heap of business.
Since I do six PCGB days a year this meant that not only had the premium gone up by a few hundred quid I was also going to be into another £600 or so.
By going with A Manning I got PCGB days free - saving the £600 and got a premium that was cheaper. Result.
Now. At the time I was absolutely clear to Performance Marque that they had lost the business - NOT because of ANY problems with their service or the insurance cover provided - but because that their price had gone from being a little expensive - but being good value thanks to the free PCGB cover - to being highly uncompetetive in comparison to what I could get elsewhere.
I have a suspicion that, by now, they (PM) will have renegotiated and got their old terms back with their underwriters as they must have lost a heap of business.
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