6 month old defender .. underseal now?
6 month old defender .. underseal now?
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Jonny TVR

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4,551 posts

311 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Not sure whether to get it undersealed. Local company I know use black finnigans waxoyl and will do it for £85. I noticed some of the bolts etc have surface rust on already. Good idea or just leave it for now?

camel_landy

5,512 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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As soon as possible... wink

M

SimesJH

768 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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^^^^ Fully agree.

£85 seems incredibly cheap. You need to get a proper job done or not at all.

It's vital you get the wax into the chassis innards and behind the rear crossmember. Get the bulkhead done, too.


Denis O

2,141 posts

273 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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There's no way it can be done properly for £85.

It needs steam cleaning and then allowed to be completely dry.

Parts need masking underneath.

Then needs the underseal applying and, as been mentioned before, all box sections, bulkhead, doors need goo squidging in.

It's probably a 3 - 4 day job overall and that's in dry weather.

astroarcadia

1,725 posts

230 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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6 months too late.

Its the single most important thing to do!

I would expect to pay a man a day plus materials not including any prep - all in the detail.


I did my own - pressure wash - dry for a day - wash again inside chassis drain holes - dry for a day - scrub lightly with wire brush - dust off.

Then applied treatment. I used combination of brushes and spray.

Edited by astroarcadia on Wednesday 21st October 17:54

rich_s

79 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Just looking at doing my 50th with Dinitrol, materials alone are £150.

Rich

Catatafish

1,529 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Dumb question, but why is this not offered from the factory?

Jonny TVR

Original Poster:

4,551 posts

311 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Thanks guys and will get a full underseal done as soon as

bakerstreet

5,049 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Catatafish said:
Dumb question, but why is this not offered from the factory?
Why did they never galvanize the chassis at the factory?!?

SimesJH

768 posts

181 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Early Series 1's were. Back in 1948.

Keeps the aftermarket happy, though.

My 110's been done and my Series III is being done now. For a keeper, I view this as money well spent.

LooneyTunes

9,435 posts

188 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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£85??? From memory it cost me north of £500 to have mine done (before it even knew what a wet road was so very little prep needed vs one that had been run for a while).

You really need to send it to someone who really knows Defenders as otherwise they're unlikely to bother with the rust traps (bottom of doors etc). The recommended places near me were all booked several weeks out (one chap 2-3 months) so might be a little wary of anywhere that could do it at the drop of a hat.

If you've not had it done before, be aware that it will stink inside for a while until the solvents go off. Quite disconcerting when you pick it up...

spartridge

970 posts

240 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Actually just looking at the same on my 18 month old 110.

Been quoted £500 + VAT for the chassis (hot steam clean, dry, prep etc), and an additional £300 +VAT to etch prime and repaint crossmember - both at a LR specialist in the south east.

Sound reasonable for a proper job? Not too experienced with these vehicles so any input appreciated!

Ta

MrsFallon

9,586 posts

273 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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spartridge said:
Actually just looking at the same on my 18 month old 110.

Been quoted £500 + VAT for the chassis (hot steam clean, dry, prep etc), and an additional £300 +VAT to etch prime and repaint crossmember - both at a LR specialist in the south east.

Sound reasonable for a proper job? Not too experienced with these vehicles so any input appreciated!

Ta
YHM

MrsFallon

9,586 posts

273 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
Not sure whether to get it undersealed. Local company I know use black finnigans waxoyl and will do it for £85. I noticed some of the bolts etc have surface rust on already. Good idea or just leave it for now?
YHM too.

Jonny TVR

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4,551 posts

311 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Thank you Mrs Fallon and all

forest172

764 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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anybody in the midlands offer this service?

Billy_Whizzzz

2,632 posts

173 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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I paid £600 to have it done the day after I picked it up - and that was for waxoyling the chassis, all cavities, bulkhead etc. Realised soon afterwards that even that wasn't enough or good enough to stop corrosion so have just paid £1200 to have it redone with dinitol. It took a week to do it properly. "Underselling" is worse than useless - particularly £85 worth. All the inner box sections need doing, all the chassis rails, bulkhead, the arch liners need to come off and inner wings done, battery box, bulkhead inside, all doors (which need trip taken off) - it's a proper major job. And then it needs an initial coat of the thin dinotrol to seep into all seams, and then the thicker stuff on top.

rb5er

11,657 posts

202 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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I was quoted 500quid by rustmaster on my impreza.

85quid is some truck fitter that will just blast it in the underside surely.

Jonny TVR

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4,551 posts

311 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
I paid £600 to have it done the day after I picked it up - and that was for waxoyling the chassis, all cavities, bulkhead etc. Realised soon afterwards that even that wasn't enough or good enough to stop corrosion so have just paid £1200 to have it redone with dinitol. It took a week to do it properly. "Underselling" is worse than useless - particularly £85 worth. All the inner box sections need doing, all the chassis rails, bulkhead, the arch liners need to come off and inner wings done, battery box, bulkhead inside, all doors (which need trip taken off) - it's a proper major job. And then it needs an initial coat of the thin dinotrol to seep into all seams, and then the thicker stuff on top.
£1200 plus £600 is a lot of money. How much is a galvanised chassis 20 years down the line?! or don't they last that long. I would agree now that an £85 quicky isn't worth it now. Just wondering whether to just leave it

rb5er

11,657 posts

202 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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If you are going to keep it for 5 years or more then spend proper money and get it done properly.

If you are keeping it for 2 years then perhaps leave it although its a selling point if you do get it done.