Speed limit question
Author
Discussion

J500ANT

Original Poster:

3,103 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
Say (as I was today) you're on a dual carriageway in your car and for whatever reason one lane was coned off (but no roadworks speed limit posted), does that road then drop from 70 to 60mph?

Doesnt really matter - just wondered.

Tony

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
J500ANT said:
Say (as I was today) you're on a dual carriageway in your car and for whatever reason one lane was coned off (but no roadworks speed limit posted), does that road then drop from 70 to 60mph?

Doesnt really matter - just wondered.

Tony



Without a temporary speed limit...the limit remains the same. I believe that's correct.

>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 9th February 18:24

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
Streetcop said:
Without a temporary speed limit...the limit remains the same. I believe that's correct.

Correct!

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
What do you consider a dual carriageway? As far as I know it means two separate carriageways (duh!) carrying traffic in opposite directions, rather than one shared one. The distinction seems to be that there is a curb or barrier between the two. I'm not quite sure what happens when the two carriageways diverge into two separate one way roads (e.g. a big cloverleaf junction), does anyone know whether a one way street still counts as DC from this point of view? When do two adjacent one-way roads count as a DC?

Hamster

136 posts

267 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
And what about single lane 60's do these go up to 70 if there's an overtaking lane.

H

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
GreenV8S said:
What do you consider a dual carriageway? As far as I know it means two separate carriageways (duh!) carrying traffic in opposite directions, rather than one shared one.

correct
GreenV8S said:
I'm not quite sure what happens when the two carriageways diverge into two separate one way roads (e.g. a big cloverleaf junction)

Still a dual carriageway
GreenV8S said:
does anyone know whether a one way street still counts as DC from this point of view?

No it doesn't
GreenV8S said:
When do two adjacent one-way roads count as a DC?

When the road (as defined in the Highways Act 1980, or the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984, it includes the footways, verges etc) is made up of two carriagways divided by a central reserve, all within the boundary limits of a single road. Technically, if there is a bit in the middle that isn't "reserve" or "verge" then its not a DC any more.

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
Hamster said:
And what about single lane 60's do these go up to 70 if there's an overtaking lane.
H

No they don't - it's not a dual carriageway.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
Hamster said:
And what about single lane 60's do these go up to 70 if there's an overtaking lane.

H


Nope, not without a "construction" between the lanes, ie grass, reserve etc. White lines don't count.

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
not sure if there is any A road like this, but in the case of the M62, where it has a big wide divide with a farm in the middle. if that was a dual carriageway A road - would that then be two one way roads?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
quotequote all
hugoagogo said:
not sure if there is any A road like this, but in the case of the M62, where it has a big wide divide with a farm in the middle. if that was a dual carriageway A road - would that then be two one way roads?


Now that bloke must have been one stubborn bugger

J500ANT

Original Poster:

3,103 posts

269 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
quotequote all
Thank you all for your replies.

Tony

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
quotequote all
Streetcop said:

J500ANT said:
Say (as I was today) you're on a dual carriageway in your car and for whatever reason one lane was coned off (but no roadworks speed limit posted), does that road then drop from 70 to 60mph?

Doesnt really matter - just wondered.

Tony




Without a temporary speed limit...the limit remains the same. I believe that's correct.

>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 9th February 18:24


All speed limits are temporary

echo

178 posts

272 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
quotequote all
Streetcop said:

J500ANT said:
Say (as I was today) you're on a dual carriageway in your car and for whatever reason one lane was coned off (but no roadworks speed limit posted), does that road then drop from 70 to 60mph?

Doesnt really matter - just wondered.

Tony




Without a temporary speed limit...the limit remains the same. I believe that's correct.

>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 9th February 18:24


Not quite - without a Traffic Order and signs bounded with red circles the limit does not change.
Temporary 'speed limits' (without red circles) are only advisory.