30 limits. At what speed do you get booked?
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30mph limit on a dual carriageway in Glasgow, I was driving a Citroen Nemo van at around 30. I saw a Police officer point a speed gun at me and looked straight down at my speedo. The needle was pointing a lot closer to 30 than 35mph. Thought "phew" to myself but was stopped. Officer showed me the speed-gun display which read 32 MPH.
The exchange was very brief. The officer said to me "Thirty two driver. The limit is thirty. Not around thirty. Not thirty three, not thirty two, not thirty one. Thirty. Had you been doing thirty three you'd have been booked and it's only a matter of time before it'll be thirty two. Now on your way." I mumbled a rabbit in headlights apology and made off.
What is the story with tolerances these days? Have a feeling that 10%+ 1mph is a thing of the past.
The exchange was very brief. The officer said to me "Thirty two driver. The limit is thirty. Not around thirty. Not thirty three, not thirty two, not thirty one. Thirty. Had you been doing thirty three you'd have been booked and it's only a matter of time before it'll be thirty two. Now on your way." I mumbled a rabbit in headlights apology and made off.
What is the story with tolerances these days? Have a feeling that 10%+ 1mph is a thing of the past.
Tannedbaldhead said:
The officer said to me "Thirty two driver. The limit is thirty. Not around thirty. Not thirty three, not thirty two, not thirty one. Thirty. Had you been doing thirty three you'd have been booked and it's only a matter of time before it'll be thirty two. Now on your way."
Officer was being a complete prick then, tbh.PorkInsider said:
He should have either warned you about your speed in polite, adult language or given you a ticket.
Speaking to you in a condescending, teacher-telling-off-a-5-year-old, manner is hardly conducive to a good relationship with the public.
But we only have the OPs side of the story. Speaking to you in a condescending, teacher-telling-off-a-5-year-old, manner is hardly conducive to a good relationship with the public.
36 in a 30 here, I tend to go 40+ though.
At drink drive campaigns I've pulled cars for 31, purely to breath test them, not to give them a ticket.
Police Scotland announced a crackdown on speeding in the summer. Even if you are just over the speed limit you will be stopped and warned of your excessive speed. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...
I got stopped for 39 in a 30 a few months ago. When I spoke to them I was curteous and respectful. They said I was 1mph over the chance of a SAC but after they checked the car and my details over and I remained polite and friendly I was given a bit of gentle road side advice and sent on my way a free man.
It worked because I'm now more careful (than I thought I was before) in lower limit areas.
It worked because I'm now more careful (than I thought I was before) in lower limit areas.
craigjm said:
Isnt it generally speed limit + 10% +2 so....
35 in a 30
46 in a 40
57 in a 50
68 in a 60
79 in a 70
all true speed of course and not speedo readings
with some leeway above the figures so those above are generally the lowest true speed where you would be stopped or a camera flash?
Varies depending on force/policies.35 in a 30
46 in a 40
57 in a 50
68 in a 60
79 in a 70
all true speed of course and not speedo readings
with some leeway above the figures so those above are generally the lowest true speed where you would be stopped or a camera flash?
In built-up 30's I stick to 30 religiously.
I do tend to unintentionally "wonder" on dual carriageways as often it feels dangerous doing 30mph even if it's simply because nobody else is.
For example has anyone been down the Aston Expressway recently with the roadworks that are on? I defy you to find anyone doing 30mph and if you try it you feel as if you're about to get killed by someone smashing into the back of you.
I do tend to unintentionally "wonder" on dual carriageways as often it feels dangerous doing 30mph even if it's simply because nobody else is.
For example has anyone been down the Aston Expressway recently with the roadworks that are on? I defy you to find anyone doing 30mph and if you try it you feel as if you're about to get killed by someone smashing into the back of you.
Scrubs said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
The officer said to me "Thirty two driver. The limit is thirty. Not around thirty. Not thirty three, not thirty two, not thirty one. Thirty. Had you been doing thirty three you'd have been booked and it's only a matter of time before it'll be thirty two. Now on your way."
Officer was being a complete prick then, tbh.The Officer has been given the job of enforcing the 30mph speed limit on a section of road that has an obvious 30mph limit in place. His bosses have more than likely told him to ensure that drivers are made aware that the limit is 30mph, not 31, not 32, not 33 etc., etc.
The driver knows the limit is 30mph but has freely volunteered to ignore the limit and drive above it.
Now how many people has the Officer had to deal with already who have pretended to be oblivious to the limit, or who have made it obvious that they don't think the speed limit matters, or have given the Officer abuse about the job he is doing? (and being as the OP stated that this was in Glasgow, I suspect that there are plenty of people there that the Police deal with who are more than happy to give their opinion of the Police).
If you were the Officer dealing with drivers all day long who were breaking the speed limit, being either oblivious to the Law or thinking that they know better than the Law, how would you go about informing them that the limit is 30mph and not 31,32,33 etc., etc, which they should already know? - Please, give us your expert method!
Something along the lines of "We're enforcing 30mph limits more rigorously than normal, you were over, only by a couple of mph but at some point we'll be doing people for it - could you please watch your speed?" would be polite and to the point IMO.
I always remember going down London shortly after 9/11 and seeing loads of Police all over the embankment and as I walked past one I politely asked "I'm not from London, is it usual to see so many Police, is there is there something on worth waiting for?" and got the reply "A little matter called 9/11 sir".
It's hard to convey as I'll sound like I'm simply picking fault because it's one of those where written down it sounds entirely reasonable, but the entire tone was a very patronising one when it could have simply been a polite one.
Maybe he was having a bad day, who knows, but I don't have reason to deal with the Police yet it still sticks with me 15 years later.
I always remember going down London shortly after 9/11 and seeing loads of Police all over the embankment and as I walked past one I politely asked "I'm not from London, is it usual to see so many Police, is there is there something on worth waiting for?" and got the reply "A little matter called 9/11 sir".
It's hard to convey as I'll sound like I'm simply picking fault because it's one of those where written down it sounds entirely reasonable, but the entire tone was a very patronising one when it could have simply been a polite one.
Maybe he was having a bad day, who knows, but I don't have reason to deal with the Police yet it still sticks with me 15 years later.
4rephill said:
If you were the Officer dealing with drivers all day long who were breaking the speed limit, being either oblivious to the Law or thinking that they know better than the Law, how would you go about informing them that the limit is 30mph and not 31,32,33 etc., etc, which they should already know? - Please, give us your expert method!
I would not do it, full stop!If I were an officer placed in that untenable position by my superiors, I would resign.
gforceg said:
I got stopped for 39 in a 30 a few months ago. When I spoke to them I was curteous and respectful. They said I was 1mph over the chance of a SAC but after they checked the car and my details over and I remained polite and friendly I was given a bit of gentle road side advice and sent on my way a free man.
That's a bit strange for a couple of reasons: 1) the guidance for an SAC is 10% plus 9MPH so you should get offered one up to 42MPH.
2) they normally grab the chance to get people on SACs as it keeps their retired ex-colleagues in donuts + beer.
Guidelines say 10% + 2 so that would be 35/30.
However there are plenty of people who will claim they have received a ticket for less, or, they know someone who has received a ticket for less.
The issue being, there appears to be less proof of that actually happening than there is of the Loch Ness monster, etc.
However there are plenty of people who will claim they have received a ticket for less, or, they know someone who has received a ticket for less.
The issue being, there appears to be less proof of that actually happening than there is of the Loch Ness monster, etc.
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