XL tyes
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SILICONEKID345HP

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14,997 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Can I fit 97Y XL on my car ? XL is for a heavy car but is it ok on a light car ?

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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I'm running harder tyres that normally go on BMW's ( I think )
With firm shocks on the road I found it very harsh Daz, even running the tyres almost flat they didn't offer much grip or hope biggrin
I've just changed to softer springs and now they seem fine, reasonable grip and now seem far more compliant over the bumps,,
It's only my opinion and maybe others have different experience but if your already on hard springs you may well feel pain for the car as it shudders along,, it's all down to the side wall me thinks!



SILICONEKID345HP

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14,997 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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ClassiChimi said:
I'm running harder tyres that normally go on BMW's ( I think )
With firm shocks on the road I found it very harsh Daz, even running the tyres almost flat they didn't offer much grip or hope biggrin
I've just changed to softer springs and now they seem fine, reasonable grip and now seem far more compliant over the bumps,,
It's only my opinion and maybe others have different experience but if your already on hard springs you may well feel pain for the car as it shudders along,, it's all down to the side wall me thinks!
235 45/17 only come in XL ,what does 97Y XL mean ?

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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XL means extra load, Daz. I have them, 97Y XL Uniroyal Rainsport 3s, on my Saab 9-5 estate, Daz, because I was warned that Saabs in practice eat through the 94Y standard tyres too quickly. I think my Audi A8 has XLs too.

Probably not necessary for a TVR. 97 is an awfully high load rating for a TVR. Even my stiff walled R888s are only 91. The two digits translate to a number of kilos the tyre can take as load.

Edited by QBee on Sunday 1st November 20:05

Sardonicus

19,440 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
235 45/17 only come in XL ,what does 97Y XL mean ?
Extra Load Daz scratchchin dont do it frown you will end up having a car that handles like those tits that stretch tyres on over sized rims headache

Sheepshanks

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148 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
235 45/17 only come in XL ,what does 97Y XL mean ?
You can get 94 load index in that size. XL is 97.

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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97 is 730kg per tyre. Way over the top, so very stiff.
My Merc 4x4, which is twice the weight of a TVR, and that tows 3.5 tonnes, is only 106 load index (950 kg).

SILICONEKID345HP

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Sunday 1st November 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
You can get 94 load index in that size. XL is 97.
They are only showing 97Y XL in that size .

QBee

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173 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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What tyres are they?

SILICONEKID345HP

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Sunday 1st November 2015
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QBee said:
97 is 730kg per tyre. Way over the top, so very stiff.
My Merc 4x4, which is twice the weight of a TVR, and that tows 3.5 tonnes, is only 106 load index (950 kg).
I thought the higher number means the tyre can run with higher air pressure ,It makes no difference with the ride comfort .

SILICONEKID345HP

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Sunday 1st November 2015
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QBee said:
What tyres are they?
T1R

QBee

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173 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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My 83 and 87 load index Federals have such soft sidewalls that after a track day with the dampers wound up hard, I can drive home on them without bothering to soften them off again.

Do that on my 91 load rating Toyo 888s and I have lost 4 fillings by the time I get home. wink

XL also means even stiffer sidewalls too


If you think about it, higher load rating tyres are bound to have stiffer sidewalls.


DAz, if you have a friendly tyreshop mate, you can try my 235/45 17 97Y XL Uniroyal Rainsport 3s on your TVR with pleasure.
The Saab is a 5 stud wheel, so you will need to swap them onto your TVR wheels and back again, that's all.

Sheepshanks

40,985 posts

148 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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QBee said:
97 is 730kg per tyre.
Hmm...well, that's true, but that's the maximum load at the maximum pressure the tyre is rated for (which will be higher pressure than a non-XL tyres).

Where it gets messy is XL tyres sometimes have a lower load capacity than non-XL any given "normal" pressure. ie at 32psi 94 index tyres carry 605kg but 97 XL tyres only carry 585kg.

SILICONEKID345HP

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Sunday 1st November 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
Hmm...well, that's true, but that's the maximum load at the maximum pressure the tyre is rated for (which will be higher pressure than a non-XL tyres).

Where it gets messy is XL tyres sometimes have a lower load capacity than non-XL any given "normal" pressure. ie at 32psi 94 index tyres carry 605kg but 97 XL tyres only carry 585kg.
so XL are designed to run at higher pressure .

Is 94Y any good for a Chimaera ?

Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Sunday 1st November 21:24

QBee

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173 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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I'll ask again, in more detail - which make of tyre are you after, in what sizes please?

Sheepshanks

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148 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
They are only showing 97Y XL in that size .
Didn't search high and low, but this is first hit on Google for that size / spec: http://www.national.co.uk/tyres-size-search?Width=...

You have to select the Y speed rating to narrow it down.

Sheepshanks

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148 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
so XL are designed to run at higher pressure .
I guess (but don't know) that the de-rating at lower pressures is due to the sidewalls of XL tyres generating more heat.

QBee

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173 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Any of these suit?

http://www.clickontyres.co.uk/toyo/#refine=true&am...

I have used them, and their customer service is excellent

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
I thought the higher number means the tyre can run with higher air pressure ,It makes no difference with the ride comfort .
Really !
I didn't know that but then I don't know much about anything biggrin

SILICONEKID345HP

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Monday 2nd November 2015
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ClassiChimi said:
Really !
I didn't know that but then I don't know much about anything biggrin
Do you know if the car will ride better going from 225 to 205 on the front ? It may help with bump steer.