Vulcan barrel roll
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Eighteeteewhy

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7,259 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/11974591/...


Get it banned immediately! Oh wait....

Nigel_O

3,830 posts

248 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Fake, fake, fake....

Someone has stitched together a bundle of stills and called it a video - my three year old grand-daughter could have done it (the stitching, not the barrel roll....)

I'd be amazed it the Daily Wail's claim of a CAA investigation is true

Edit - the Telegraph, not the Wail - they really ought to know better....

lynothehammer

34 posts

131 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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The video footage looks shocking, i'm still not convinced...

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Can someone take down that dodgy video before....

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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lynothehammer said:
The video footage looks shocking, i'm still not convinced...
Do you mean the video itself or the subject of the video wink

It looks like one of the previously posted wingovers where theyve skipped a couple of frames so it looks like a roll

or it was a burger

number 46

1,019 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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One can''t have much confidence in a newspaper reporter who doesn't know the difference between acrobatics and aerobatics!!!! See article headline.

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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I call fake as above.

Richjam

318 posts

217 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Pretty sure its real I watched it over Rutland Water just before then followed it on FR24 and twitter. There were lots of comments on twitter about it being rolled and a rather large altitude spike on FR24 I suppose it could have been a wingover but thats not what people were saying at the time.

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Richjam said:
Pretty sure its real I watched it over Rutland Water just before then followed it on FR24 and twitter. There were lots of comments on twitter about it being rolled and a rather large altitude spike on FR24 I suppose it could have been a wingover but thats not what people were saying at the time.
I think I remember you or someone else posting similar at the time in the main thread.

Having seen some of those wingovers, it looked like it would take less effort to complete a roll than undo the wingover. If one did eventually happen it's not surprising.


Richjam

318 posts

217 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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saaby93 said:
Richjam said:
Pretty sure its real I watched it over Rutland Water just before then followed it on FR24 and twitter. There were lots of comments on twitter about it being rolled and a rather large altitude spike on FR24 I suppose it could have been a wingover but thats not what people were saying at the time.
I think I remember you or someone else posting similar at the time in the main thread.

Having seen some of those wingovers, it looked like it would take less effort to complete a roll than undo the wingover. If one did eventually happen it's not surprising.
Im pretty sure thats what happened at high altitude the risk would not be increased unfortunately post shorham it easy to see it as reckless.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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Richjam said:
There were lots of comments on twitter about it being rolled and a rather large altitude spike on FR24 I suppose it could have been a wingover but thats not what people were saying at the time.
Similar situation on the Saturday at RIAT though, when it popped over Swindon way before linking up with the Red Arrows.

AndyNetwork

1,849 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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There were rumours that they were going to do it before the end of flight, long ago, but seemed to go very quiet after the accident at Shoreham.



TorqueVR

1,969 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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Oh dear - I suppose the "authorities" will have to ground her!

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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Possible CAA verdict: inconclusive evidence.

droopsnoot

14,623 posts

271 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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It's hard to believe that there isn't a proper video, if it happened.

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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VC's all round for the crew....has this country lost its lust for adventure and free spirited fun?

aeropilot

40,526 posts

256 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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saaby93 said:
Having seen some of those wingovers, it looked like it would take less effort to complete a roll than undo the wingover.
Which is precisely what happened on at least one occasion back in the 70's during an overseas RAF solo aero's display......it's the get out of jail free card manoeuvre for a wing-over that goes a bit wrong and past the 110deg point. The aircraft can do it without any big drama, it's just not cleared as a 'standard' and permitted display manoeuvre.


Wozy68

5,436 posts

199 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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belleair302 said:
VC's all round for the crew....has this country lost its lust for adventure and free spirited fun?
No, just that those now in control of everything are weak ball less jobs worths who for once in their lives have the power to make life for the quiet majority as mundane as their sad little lives are biggrin

Condi

20,267 posts

200 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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belleair302 said:
VC's all round for the crew....has this country lost its lust for adventure and free spirited fun?
No, but 'adventure and free spirited fun' ends quite quickly when it lands unexpectedly at some traffic lights.




But yes, its a nice set of V's to the bureaucrats hehe

Hard-Drive

4,291 posts

258 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Reminds me of when I learned to glide as an air cadet (coolest bloody thing ever...solo in an aircraft before I'd passed my driving test)

Anyway, aeros were strictly banned, but one day I heard "I have control" from my instructor in the back seat, shortly before pitching her into a 100kt dive and saying "oh no...elevator jam!" and pulling a bloody great big loop. We levelled out and he said, "Hmmmm, seems OK now..."

Definitely looks like an aileron malfunction on 558 to me... whistle