How much (approx) does an air ambulance call out cost?
How much (approx) does an air ambulance call out cost?
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Dr Murdoch

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3,943 posts

164 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Just wondering, obviously there are costs involved whether the ambulance was called out or not.

Somebody near me self-harmed at the weekend resulting in the air ambulance being called, made me wonder how much the self inflicted incident cost.

Simpo Two

92,666 posts

294 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Good question. I think the same when I see 'Police Chase Kapow' programmes - they have four police cars and a helicopter out for an hour chasing a spotty kid in a stolen car - and all he gets is a £50 fine.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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IIRC its about £3k per day to have the chopper and the crew sat waiting plus fuel per sortie

Dr Murdoch

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3,943 posts

164 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Well I guess the crew will be getting paid regardless of the call out.

So it would be a question of the cost of fuel + and an amount for wear and tear?

How much is that a mile?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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No idea but the Hamster Air Ambulance thread was first started to find the £1,500 it was estimated that that call out would have cost back then...

dangerousB

1,701 posts

219 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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From memory, very rough figures for EC 135:-

Fuel - £200/hr
Maintenance - £400/hr
Cruise speed - approx 140mph

Raw cost per mile at those figures would be would be approx £4.30/mile, but obviously doesn't reflect in any way what the service costs to provide.
On top of that and just off the top of my head, you've got:-

Helicopter lease
Insurances
Storage/base costs
Pilot & 2 HEMS crew
HEMS controller
TO/landing fees (if airport based)
+ charity wages to fundraise
+ probably a lot more!

and without those being paid for the service doesn't get provided, which is why our air ambulance trust reckon each mission costs approx. £3,300.

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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It's difficult to calculate the precise cost of an individual call out.

The vast majority of the costs are fixed. Fuel is the biggest variable and I think the EC135 burns around 200kg or 250 litres per hour. Jet-A is less than 60p litre so c.£150 p/h.

The Air Ambulance Trusts generate a lot of public support, especially when they are seen in attendance at a life saving incident. Don't know how serious this matter was adjudged to be.


lee_fr200

5,634 posts

219 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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West Yorkshire air ambulance state they need to raise 10k+ a day to operate

the_lone_wolf

2,622 posts

215 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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lee_fr200 said:
West Yorkshire air ambulance state they need to raise 10k+ a day to operate
This is about what I've heard, something along the lines of £4k for every hour of flight time...

Impasse

15,099 posts

270 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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Would have been cheaper to maintain the mental health teams and given the person pre-emptive help.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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Impasse said:
Would have been cheaper to maintain the mental health teams and given the person pre-emptive help.
How good are mental health teams at dealing with RTAs and industrial and domestic accidents, which is what Air Ambulances spend most of their time dealing with?

Important to remember that air ambulances are largely funded by donations, rather than state funding. They are expensive, no question, but the public seem to think they are worth supporting.

matchmaker

9,033 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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I wonder what the two King Air 200C used by the Scottish Ambulance Service cost per hour?

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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matchmaker said:
I wonder what the two King Air 200C used by the Scottish Ambulance Service cost per hour?
Less, and great for covering distance quickly, especially to/from the remote outlying Islands.

But not recommended for landing in a town centre, by a roadside or on a hospital roof wink

Impasse

15,099 posts

270 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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Inkyfingers said:
How good are mental health teams at dealing with RTAs and industrial and domestic accidents, which is what Air Ambulances spend most of their time dealing with?

Important to remember that air ambulances are largely funded by donations, rather than state funding. They are expensive, no question, but the public seem to think they are worth supporting.
I'm not sure what this rant has to do with the self harming incident in the OP? But as long as you feel validated for making it.

Nickyboy

6,823 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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Thames Valley & Chiltern Air Ambulance is approx £2.5k per mission

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 18th November 2015
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Impasse said:
Inkyfingers said:
How good are mental health teams at dealing with RTAs and industrial and domestic accidents, which is what Air Ambulances spend most of their time dealing with?

Important to remember that air ambulances are largely funded by donations, rather than state funding. They are expensive, no question, but the public seem to think they are worth supporting.
I'm not sure what this rant has to do with the self harming incident in the OP? But as long as you feel validated for making it.
It's not a rant, just a reply to your message.