Casualty Reduction Unit
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abailey

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225 posts

288 months

Saturday 12th February 2005
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Spotted in Wiltshire. White van that looked remarkably like a Talivan. What tossers!

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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abailey said:
Spotted in Wiltshire. White van that looked remarkably like a Talivan. What tossers!


nope. Just people doing a job. Potentially police officers.

Perhaps the Government are the ones to vent your anger on.

Besides; did you tell them they were tossers? Why not?

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

262 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Streetcop said:
Besides; did you tell them they were tossers? Why not?


I have...

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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DeltaFox said:

Streetcop said:
Besides; did you tell them they were tossers? Why not?



I have...


and what happened?

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Streetcop said:

abailey said:
Spotted in Wiltshire. White van that looked remarkably like a Talivan. What tossers!


nope. Just people doing a job. Potentially police officers.

Perhaps the Government are the ones to vent your anger on.

Besides; did you tell them they were tossers? Why not?


Because in many cases you simply can't.

A woman who inspects our school is quite laughably ignorant.

In Police terms it's like having someone coming in to check up on Cops asking you why there are people in your cells, who these people in Blue Uniforms are, they should all be pink, and it's wrong that mass murder should be a crime and you should let them all out.

It's difficult to describe how incredibly ignorant she is. It is genuinely embarrassing. You just stand there with your jaw on the floor. Let's put it this way ; she probably knows less about it than you or any other member of the public does !

What she does have is immense power ; if you complain you complain to her or her mates, and she comes back with a vengeance, shall we say. So no-one does, you just have to manage as best you can.

We have all seen the people charged for not having control of their vehicle sticking their fingers up at the Talivans. Same thing applies.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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If it makes a driver feel better to risk a fixed penalty for sticking the fingers up, or shouting abuse from the safety of his moving car; so be it.

At present time, I don't work cameravans, but my colleagues that do..don't seem to bother what driver's think that pass by. They are earning their £100 for sitting in the back of the van, and until the Government says otherwise, will continue to do so...

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Freedom of speech curtailment.
You can say what you want so long as you don't offend anyone (unless you are a muslim cleric when you can say anything)
You could stop and have a reasoned arguement with the operator but they often park in places were it is illegal for any other vehicle to park.

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

262 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Streetcop said:
and what happened?


Nothing. Civvies ya see...besides i was on two wheels...and bikes dont have number plates..

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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voyds9 said:
Freedom of speech curtailment.
You can say what you want so long as you don't offend anyone (unless you are a muslim cleric when you can say anything)
You could stop and have a reasoned arguement with the operator but they often park in places were it is illegal for any other vehicle to park.


Yeah..liked the MC argument.....

A reasoned argument? Why bother? Wont change the mind of the officer inside and some will chat others will tell you to go away.

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Streetcop said:
If it makes a driver feel better to risk a fixed penalty for sticking the fingers up, or shouting abuse from the safety of his moving car; so be it.

At present time, I don't work cameravans, but my colleagues that do..don't seem to bother what driver's think that pass by. They are earning their £100 for sitting in the back of the van, and until the Government says otherwise, will continue to do so...


And that Gary, entirely sums up the problem!!

james_j

3,996 posts

285 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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IOLAIRE said:

Streetcop said:
If it makes a driver feel better to risk a fixed penalty for sticking the fingers up, or shouting abuse from the safety of his moving car; so be it.

At present time, I don't work cameravans, but my colleagues that do..don't seem to bother what driver's think that pass by. They are earning their £100 for sitting in the back of the van, and until the Government says otherwise, will continue to do so...



And that Gary, entirely sums up the problem!!


Yes indeed. The same story repeated throughout human history.

mutt k

3,964 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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abailey said:
Spotted in Wiltshire. White van that looked remarkably like a Talivan. What tossers!


A more significant question; where in Wiltshire?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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IOLAIRE said:

Streetcop said:
If it makes a driver feel better to risk a fixed penalty for sticking the fingers up, or shouting abuse from the safety of his moving car; so be it.

At present time, I don't work cameravans, but my colleagues that do..don't seem to bother what driver's think that pass by. They are earning their £100 for sitting in the back of the van, and until the Government says otherwise, will continue to do so...



And that Gary, entirely sums up the problem!!


Aye...Thank you..

abailey

Original Poster:

225 posts

288 months

Sunday 13th February 2005
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Streetcop - I did not particularly mean the guys in the van, rather the berks who feel that by labelling the van as a 'Casualty Reduction Unit' they would fool the general public into thinking it was on a worthy mission rather than simply generating more revenues from motorists.

The van was in Swindon if I recall correctly.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

268 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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abailey said:
Streetcop - I did not particularly mean the guys in the van, rather the berks who feel that by labelling the van as a 'Casualty Reduction Unit' they would fool the general public into thinking it was on a worthy mission rather than simply generating more revenues from motorists.

The van was in Swindon if I recall correctly.


Noted.

LongQ

13,864 posts

263 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Streetcop said:

At present time, I don't work cameravans, but my colleagues that do..don't seem to bother what driver's think that pass by. They are earning their £100 for sitting in the back of the van, and until the Government says otherwise, will continue to do so...


Is that £100 before or after tax and any other deductions?

james_j

3,996 posts

285 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Streetcop said:

abailey said:
Streetcop - I did not particularly mean the guys in the van, rather the berks who feel that by labelling the van as a 'Casualty Reduction Unit' they would fool the general public into thinking it was on a worthy mission rather than simply generating more revenues from motorists.

The van was in Swindon if I recall correctly.



Noted.


The message is a clumsy attempt at brainwashing (or simply fooling), linking such a simple parameter as speed with safety.

miniman

30,064 posts

292 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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mutt k said:
A more significant question; where in Wiltshire?
Regularly on the A350 just south of the M4 J17 heading into Chippenham. As an aside, often well hidden.

polar993

527 posts

269 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Streetcop said:


At present time, I don't work cameravans, but my colleagues that do..don't seem to bother what driver's think that pass by. They are earning their £100 for sitting in the back of the van


It is precisely this attitude that will ultimately lead to a total breakdown in respect for the Police, and why they cannot be surprised when they get little assistance from the general public.

It really makes my blood boil when I hear things like this, yet I think it is a crying shame because in almost all instances other than when dealing with Police on traffic matters, I have a real affinity with the way in which they go about a difficult job.

Does anyone in the force/politicians akcnowledge the damage these policies/actions are having on relations between the Police and the wider law-abiding general public??

havoc

33,388 posts

265 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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polar993 said:
Does anyone in the force/politicians akcnowledge the damage these policies/actions are having on relations between the Police and the wider law-abiding general public??
Probably, but almost certainly not at decision-making levels, and even less likely (we're into snowballs and hell here!) at policy-making level.