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I had to go into London to day on a training course (BTW, how the f
k do people do this everyday? You'd have to pay me at least 100k to make it bearable!) and apart from the dirty, late, expensive and overcrowded train full of miserable bds, all was fine until I ventured from Moorgate station to the venue.
I had somehow failed to notice the group of overly friendly, clipboard wielding tossers clad in Red Cross jackets. The bloke in front of me, who was on his mobile, had a guy jump right out in front of him, blocking his path!
This did not end well for the chugger as the guy just barged him out of the way while carrying on his phone call.
Another followed some poor young girl down the street going on about refugees and how we all need to do our bit "and it's only £5 a month".
I had some crazy woman waving her arms at me like she was having an epileptic fit/at a rave trying to stop me "just to chat for 5 mins". No fk off!
When I left the venue at 4pm they were still there, harrasing people, acting like irritaing tts and genrally seeming to piss everybody off. One, a lad about 18 was lucky not to get knocked out when he tried to guilt trip some pretty pissed off builders.
I thought charities had been given a bking about these hard sell tactics?
k do people do this everyday? You'd have to pay me at least 100k to make it bearable!) and apart from the dirty, late, expensive and overcrowded train full of miserable bds, all was fine until I ventured from Moorgate station to the venue.I had somehow failed to notice the group of overly friendly, clipboard wielding tossers clad in Red Cross jackets. The bloke in front of me, who was on his mobile, had a guy jump right out in front of him, blocking his path!
This did not end well for the chugger as the guy just barged him out of the way while carrying on his phone call.Another followed some poor young girl down the street going on about refugees and how we all need to do our bit "and it's only £5 a month".
I had some crazy woman waving her arms at me like she was having an epileptic fit/at a rave trying to stop me "just to chat for 5 mins". No f
k off!When I left the venue at 4pm they were still there, harrasing people, acting like irritaing t
ts and genrally seeming to piss everybody off. One, a lad about 18 was lucky not to get knocked out when he tried to guilt trip some pretty pissed off builders.I thought charities had been given a b
king about these hard sell tactics?I used to donate to the Red Cross a few years ago. I thought my £15 per month was perfectly reasonable.
They rang me once saying that butterflies were dying or something, and would I mind upping my donation? I respectfully declined, and politely asked they don't call me again.
After six months, they called me again saying something about the Syrian crisis. This must have been in early 2014 so God only knows what they're bombarding people with now. Again, I said that I am happy donating what I am and do not call me again.
A few weeks later I got another call begging for money. I then cancelled my donation to the Red Cross and haven't really subscribed to any donation service since. Funnily enough, since I cancelled, they've stopped calling me.
They rang me once saying that butterflies were dying or something, and would I mind upping my donation? I respectfully declined, and politely asked they don't call me again.
After six months, they called me again saying something about the Syrian crisis. This must have been in early 2014 so God only knows what they're bombarding people with now. Again, I said that I am happy donating what I am and do not call me again.
A few weeks later I got another call begging for money. I then cancelled my donation to the Red Cross and haven't really subscribed to any donation service since. Funnily enough, since I cancelled, they've stopped calling me.
Chuggers really annoy me. Knowing that they are on commission I don't mind too much giving them a hearty fk off pill. I have in the past nearly decked them though when they've suddenly jumped into my peripheral vision.
As to the contact from charities to whom you donate, this annoys me too although I suppose statistically people who have donated once are more likely to do so again.
I have in the past only donated sporadically to causes which touch me personally. I now have a standing order to a Children's Hospice as it is very local and I know the money is well spent.
I've also just spent 2 weeks volunteering at a brilliant Cambodian social project for poor and orphaned rural children- this has completely changed my perspective on charity as, rather than it going to a board of shareholders and highly paid executives, I can see where every dollar is spent. The disabled man who runs it is just in the process of setting up a new centre and the amount of scrabbling around for the $150/month rent is incredible- the current centre is largely funded by the $3 a day volunteers pay for food/accommodation.
If anyone is interested in donating I'd be happy to share more details by PM, I'm currently on a RTW trip but will be returning to the project next summer after doing my TEFL course. It's amazing how far a little money can go there and I'm hoping to make a big fundraising push before I come back to buy teaching materials, etc.
k off pill. I have in the past nearly decked them though when they've suddenly jumped into my peripheral vision. As to the contact from charities to whom you donate, this annoys me too although I suppose statistically people who have donated once are more likely to do so again.
I have in the past only donated sporadically to causes which touch me personally. I now have a standing order to a Children's Hospice as it is very local and I know the money is well spent.
I've also just spent 2 weeks volunteering at a brilliant Cambodian social project for poor and orphaned rural children- this has completely changed my perspective on charity as, rather than it going to a board of shareholders and highly paid executives, I can see where every dollar is spent. The disabled man who runs it is just in the process of setting up a new centre and the amount of scrabbling around for the $150/month rent is incredible- the current centre is largely funded by the $3 a day volunteers pay for food/accommodation.
If anyone is interested in donating I'd be happy to share more details by PM, I'm currently on a RTW trip but will be returning to the project next summer after doing my TEFL course. It's amazing how far a little money can go there and I'm hoping to make a big fundraising push before I come back to buy teaching materials, etc.
Edited by carreauchompeur on Saturday 21st November 01:42
I don't know enough about what happens to the money these people raise to form an opinion as to whether what they are doing is right or wrong but they never get above mildly irritating.
I'm usually sufficiently spatially aware to avoid them outside but if if accosted, it usually starts with a question or an attempt to start up a conversation but I can usually deflect quite well.
It's door knockers that annoy me more than anything, especially if I'm working and in deep trains of thought but they get short shrift.
People who know me know I do some selfless acts to help specific individuals in need and I don't want to give money to anyone when I don't know what it is going to be used for.
I'm usually sufficiently spatially aware to avoid them outside but if if accosted, it usually starts with a question or an attempt to start up a conversation but I can usually deflect quite well.
It's door knockers that annoy me more than anything, especially if I'm working and in deep trains of thought but they get short shrift.
People who know me know I do some selfless acts to help specific individuals in need and I don't want to give money to anyone when I don't know what it is going to be used for.
"It is understood that the RSPCA had intended to pay FIL about £1.8 million and in return FIL would sign up donors who, it was estimated, would provide almost £2.4 million. "
If the charity only gets 25% of the money raised then it doesn't seem a great return. And that assumes that the chugger company stays in business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/re...
If the charity only gets 25% of the money raised then it doesn't seem a great return. And that assumes that the chugger company stays in business.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/re...
This is going to make me sound like a bit of an ass but I feel that if someone's asking me for money then it's not charity. I believe a charitable donation should originate from the will of the person donating. I want it to be my choice whether or not to give money to what I perceive is a worthy cause and nine times out of ten, it's not to a big, organised charity.
Around 15 years ago I had the dubious pleasure of doing some work for a very large, very well-known charity. It was upon arrival at their impressive marble-floored offices in central London that I decided that the priorities of large charitable organisations are somewhat confused.
If you genuinely want to help people; find a local charity. It's not hard to do and I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that they need the cash a hell of a lot more than the big boys.
Chugging should be illegal.
Around 15 years ago I had the dubious pleasure of doing some work for a very large, very well-known charity. It was upon arrival at their impressive marble-floored offices in central London that I decided that the priorities of large charitable organisations are somewhat confused.
If you genuinely want to help people; find a local charity. It's not hard to do and I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that they need the cash a hell of a lot more than the big boys.
Chugging should be illegal.
We get Red Cross or Amnesty International ones in my area, fortunately for me they tend to only hassle women without men with them or teenage girls; I guess they realise that most single men, or women that are with a man at the time will likely ignore them.
I can't stand them and I hate the way that they home in from a distance on a poor unsuspecting victim and then hit them with the big smile, flirting and overly friendly bull st.
My wife is a nightmare as she just can't say no.
I can't stand them and I hate the way that they home in from a distance on a poor unsuspecting victim and then hit them with the big smile, flirting and overly friendly bull s
t. My wife is a nightmare as she just can't say no.
austinsmirk said:
I quite happily reply to them.
I say " I genuinely couldn't care less about whatever you're begging for, how about that for an honest answer ?"
Usually leaves the dreadlocked unwashed bearded tts reasonably shocked.
You sound like a very pleasant individual.I say " I genuinely couldn't care less about whatever you're begging for, how about that for an honest answer ?"
Usually leaves the dreadlocked unwashed bearded t
ts reasonably shocked. A general question for everyone on this thread, whats wrong with just smiling and saying "no, thank you" and continuing on with your journey? On the (very) rare occasion that a collector has ignored my first refusal then repeating the same thing in a slightly firmer tone of voice has always done the trick.
Sure, you may think they are being rude but that's no justification to be rude back to them. I just don't get what's so hard about being polite.
Jim the Sunderer said:
They're easy enough to deal with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtPBNvhnim4
One of my favourite comedy scenes ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtPBNvhnim4
"Church of Scientologgggggggggggggggggggyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!"
Rawwr said:
This is going to make me sound like a bit of an ass but I feel that if someone's asking me for money then it's not charity. I believe a charitable donation should originate from the will of the person donating. I want it to be my choice whether or not to give money to what I perceive is a worthy cause and nine times out of ten, it's not to a big, organised charity
Chugging should be illegal.
Not an arse at all......that's exactly how giving to charity should work...... And it doesn't always have to be cash either, lots of folk give their timeChugging should be illegal.
leglessAlex said:
You sound like a very pleasant individual.
A general question for everyone on this thread, whats wrong with just smiling and saying "no, thank you" and continuing on with your journey? On the (very) rare occasion that a collector has ignored my first refusal then repeating the same thing in a slightly firmer tone of voice has always done the trick.
Sure, you may think they are being rude but that's no justification to be rude back to them. I just don't get what's so hard about being polite.
Because they don't take that as the end of the conversation , they just keep on trying to extract money from you until you finally do get more direct.A general question for everyone on this thread, whats wrong with just smiling and saying "no, thank you" and continuing on with your journey? On the (very) rare occasion that a collector has ignored my first refusal then repeating the same thing in a slightly firmer tone of voice has always done the trick.
Sure, you may think they are being rude but that's no justification to be rude back to them. I just don't get what's so hard about being polite.
In some respects I have sympathy for these youngsters almost being forced to take these "non-jobs" which will invariably fk up benefits claims and get them further into debt. I am very polite with them but always decline.
The problem is that Charities are using a commercial approach to raising funds and with it are using tactics that are less than ethical for a charitable organisation. I firmly believe that Charities that behave like this should be treated with the disdain we would have for other dubious commercial practices. The answer is not to belittle those working at ground level but to attack those high up.
k up benefits claims and get them further into debt. I am very polite with them but always decline.The problem is that Charities are using a commercial approach to raising funds and with it are using tactics that are less than ethical for a charitable organisation. I firmly believe that Charities that behave like this should be treated with the disdain we would have for other dubious commercial practices. The answer is not to belittle those working at ground level but to attack those high up.
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