I've wondered for a long time ......
I've wondered for a long time ......
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Thankyou4calling

Original Poster:

11,038 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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If I sat on a dockside and put my feet on the back of a supertanker or 100,000 tonne cruise ship.

Could I ( being a powerfully built company director) build up enough force to get the ship moving?

Not at any great speed obviously but could I generate any movement.

I'm not likely to do it but I'm intrigued to know.

Thanks


Itsallicanafford

2,962 posts

190 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Depends if you've eaten your spinach

Monkeylegend

29,569 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Only at high tide.

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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With this being the internet, I'm clearly completely unqualified to give you an opinion, but I will anyway and I reckon you could.

Thankyou4calling

Original Poster:

11,038 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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I know the thread referred to above but I wanted to give this the airing it deserved.

Thankyou4calling :-)

perdu

4,885 posts

230 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Probably be better if there's two of you

I can spare Thursday next if you have a dock in mind, near the Midlands

It'd be nice to see if the replacement knees are up to a bit of real work

wink

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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No, hth. smile

98elise

32,828 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Of course you can its simple physics, it would however take a long time.

oldcynic

2,166 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Only if you get the driver to let off the handbrake first

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Is the supertanker on a conveyor belt?

Thankyou4calling

Original Poster:

11,038 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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98elise said:
Of course you can its simple physics, it would however take a long time.
Thanks. Can you explain it for me please in lay mans terms.

Hamish Finn

476 posts

139 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
Thanks. Can you explain it for me please in lay mans terms.
Well the simple physics is that your very powerful (!) legs are exerting a force against the hull of the previously mentioned supertanker. So it will move, provided your legs are powerful enough to overcome the inertia. Only you can tell us that. As mentioned previously, the tide comes into it, as does the wind. Is it blowing towards you, or blowing away from you, or (heaven forbid) blowing sidey-ways?

Are the supertankers's engines running and controlling the screws and stabilisers? So much you haven't told us.

Another interesting one you could try is to fertilise a field with a fart.

Please report back.



northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
98elise said:
Of course you can its simple physics, it would however take a long time.
Thanks. Can you explain it for me please in lay mans terms.
Well you see, 5 minutes is not a long time but 5 hours is a long time. That, my son is "a long time" explained in laymans terms.

Just think of me as a slightly more mobile Steven Hawkins & you're pretty much there.

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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northwest monkey said:
Just think of me as a slightly more mobile Steven Hawkins & you're pretty much there.
OK Steve,


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northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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marshalla said:
northwest monkey said:
Just think of me as a slightly more mobile Steven Hawkins & you're pretty much there.
OK Steve,


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And maybe slightly less black.

Impasse

15,099 posts

272 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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It's a thought, that's for sure. Whenever I've sat on the edge of the dock I can't say I've even considered it. I just watch the tide roll away.

EliseNick

272 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Yes, you can. This is in obvious contrast to, say, a large lump of rock lying on the floor. This is because there is a difference in the nature of friction at the solid-solid interface and the solid-liquid interface. In the case of the rock, there is static friction, which you have to overcome to get the thing moving, and dynamic friction, which acts against any motion present. In the case of the boat, there is no static friction, so the smallest of forces will start it moving. You don't have to brace your shoulders to it/get more directorships/throw Red Bull about, you could blow gently on it and it would still start moving a little.Then, once it is moving, drag sets in, which acts rather like the dynamic friction.

Monkeylegend

29,569 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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It might help if you pulled the anchor.

perdu

4,885 posts

230 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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I'm NOT messing with it if the anchor is still set

I don't think I have Thursday free after all, sorry




Tuesday week?