First go around
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insurance_jon

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4,096 posts

275 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Had my first go around last night.

A380 inbound from Dubai to Manchester

Was watching the landing on the tail cam and we were crabbing towards the runway. Almost down but go hit by a massive crosswind. Then full throttle and back round.

I loved it, but the Mrs filled 3 airsickness bags (pregnant)

Edited by insurance_jon on Monday 7th December 10:45

surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Only seen 2

First was into Bristol on a windy night. Could see runway and suddenly up and away. It was impressive. Even more so when I realised just how windy it was getting off the plane.

Second was a bit less dramatic, but to me slightly more alarming, as the Aer Lingus pilot clearly viewed us in the back as cattle not worth talking to. Just heard the landing gear cycle down then back up and off we went around a merry-go around. A two second PA to say it's the airport that's got the problem not us would have been appreciated.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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As a keen plane spotter in the 70s, I saw a few.

I remember a BEA Trident deciding to go around at Dublin and on another occasion, an Aer Lingus 737 decided it was not a good idea to land on top of a TAE Douglas DC-8 that had decided not to bother rushing his take off run and was still on the runway as the Aer Lingus plane was on final approach.

NM62

952 posts

179 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Have been in two unplanned go arounds.

First, Cessna 152 into Leeds Bradford ( Old runway 10/28 ). The landing end had rather a sharp drop off and suffered sudden down drafts. My mate, who had just got his PPL at age 17 was flying, we hit down draft as we came into land, left wing dipped and we veered across runway, left wing tip was apparrantly inches from hitting the Tarmac ( according to the tower who hit the alarm and had the fire engines out).

My mate caught it and followed the "procedure" to go around. I thought he was just showing off and only after hearing the tower asking if all was good and seeing all the flashing lights on the fire engines did I realise what nearly happened.

Second, 737 into Nice . Gusting crosswind. Tried twice then pilot Diverted to Marseille. Sat there for two hours. Tried again and landed. Then waited 2 hours in the queue for hire car.

Arrived at our holiday home at 01:00. Mum, Wife and daughter all scared witless and took them two weeks to get ready for return journey.

Did quite a few planned ones in Chipmunks & Dominies from Finningley, C130 from Lyneham at Bristol (Filton) when with the ATC.



Quhet

2,922 posts

175 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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My only go-around was a few years ago coming into Auckland, there was an plane still on the runway. We weren't too low but it was still fun. Made me miss my connecting flight though mad

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Two go-arounds last year approaching Gatwick then off to Stanstead due to windsheer apparently. I was told two being the max you can have apparently before you then go to an alternate airport. We then went through a hail stornm at the same time being hit by lightning and hearing hail hit the front of the aricraft like nothing I've ever heard before. Not surprisingly ¾'s of the passengers opted to disembark at Stanstead through fright. That added 2 hours onto our stop due to baggage and security measures.

More recently about 3 weeks ago two go-arounds going into Milan due to thick fog. We went back up both times at about 50 feet from the ground. We then auto-landed which in many respects was more scary! I'm not sure why we had two attempts and then landed following on from my previous experience, perhaps the go-around rules are different overseas?

I don't have any issues with a go-around, if anything the sudden power up etc. is quite a good feeling smile

surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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HoHoHo said:
Two go-arounds last year approaching Gatwick then off to Stanstead due to windsheer apparently. I was told two being the max you can have apparently before you then go to an alternate airport. We then went through a hail stornm at the same time being hit by lightning and hearing hail hit the front of the aricraft like nothing I've ever heard before. Not surprisingly ¾'s of the passengers opted to disembark at Stanstead through fright. That added 2 hours onto our stop due to baggage and security measures.

More recently about 3 weeks ago two go-arounds going into Milan due to thick fog. We went back up both times at about 50 feet from the ground. We then auto-landed which in many respects was more scary! I'm not sure why we had two attempts and then landed following on from my previous experience, perhaps the go-around rules are different overseas?

I don't have any issues with a go-around, if anything the sudden power up etc. is quite a good feeling smile
I don't think there is any rule on the max no of approaches, but there is a time where fuel will reach planned minimums and the pilots will divert. So it just depends on the juice levels I guess.


TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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surveyor said:
Only seen 2


Second was a bit less dramatic, but to me slightly more alarming, as the Aer Lingus pilot clearly viewed us in the back as cattle not worth talking to. Just heard the landing gear cycle down then back up and off we went around a merry-go around. A two second PA to say it's the airport that's got the problem not us would have been appreciated.
Although, you could also say that when a final, stabalised approach goes unstabalised at short final, the Pilots workloads suddenly become rather high. Talking to passengers is the last of their concerns. They are more concerned at not being the first to arrive at the crash. Go Around is incredibly stressful.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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surveyor said:
I don't think there is any rule on the max no of approaches, but there is a time where fuel will reach planned minimums and the pilots will divert. So it just depends on the juice levels I guess.
I think most airlines specify a max number of approaches before you divert ( with various added criteria) Two being a common number.

surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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el stovey said:
surveyor said:
I don't think there is any rule on the max no of approaches, but there is a time where fuel will reach planned minimums and the pilots will divert. So it just depends on the juice levels I guess.
I think most airlines specify a max number of approaches before you divert ( with various added criteria) Two being a common number.
Your knowledge I definitely bow down to

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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surveyor said:
el stovey said:
surveyor said:
I don't think there is any rule on the max no of approaches, but there is a time where fuel will reach planned minimums and the pilots will divert. So it just depends on the juice levels I guess.
I think most airlines specify a max number of approaches before you divert ( with various added criteria) Two being a common number.
Your knowledge I definitely bow down to
There's usually a caveat like max number of 2 approaches, unless there's a marked improvement in the weather.

If it was something odd like a go around due to getting too close to the aircraft In front and then a second due to a technical problem or mishandling the approach, then diverting somewhere else might be a bit pointless.

You are right though, in the sense that it's not mandated by the airport or the regulator.

aeropilot

40,526 posts

256 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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surveyor said:
Only seen 2
Saw a BA747 firewalling the throttles just as it was coming in over the A30 this morning into 27L......but, it's actually quite a common occurrence. I'd say I personally see at least 4-5 per week into Heathrow, so it's likely the number is higher than that.

fatboy b

9,665 posts

245 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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We had two on the same trip a few years back. Virgin to Chicago. Air traffic got us too close to the next plane on the first one, so back round. Then on the second one, exactly the same. The cabin was pretty quiet after the second one, but co-pilot explained and all was good for the third.

Trevatanus

11,349 posts

179 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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surveyor said:
Only seen 2

First was into Bristol on a windy night. Could see runway and suddenly up and away. It was impressive. Even more so when I realised just how windy it was getting off the plane.

Second was a bit less dramatic, but to me slightly more alarming, as the Aer Lingus pilot clearly viewed us in the back as cattle not worth talking to. Just heard the landing gear cycle down then back up and off we went around a merry-go around. A two second PA to say it's the airport that's got the problem not us would have been appreciated.
I would have been quite happy knowing that the pilot was using his full concentration on getting me down in once piece!

Puggit

49,789 posts

277 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Gibraltar in November - enough said hehe

Trevatanus

11,349 posts

179 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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TJS10 said:
This one always make's me shudder !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYiLaK5bIJo
New undies all round I think!

David87

7,018 posts

241 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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I've never been on board an aircraft that went around, but I can recall watching an old Ryanair 737-200 performing one at STN when I was there on work experience as a teenager. It was a pretty awesome thing to see, but I can't for the life of me remember why it went around!

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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I had one about 18 months ago, it was on an old Fokker 100 coming into Budapest and the pilot calmly explained that there was an issue with the landing gear so they'd do a circuit, try some resets and have another go. Luckily we landed at the second attempt without issue, not guaranteed given the history of this particular type and landing gear faults, I subsequently found out.

Happily Helvetic have now acquired some rather less horrid Embraer jets to replace the fossilised Fokkers which will make my life much more pleasant.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Quhet said:
My only go-around was .... a plane still on the runway. We weren't too low but it was still fun.
Same for me coming into Heathrow from New York. Pilot was very chilled about the whole thing with his "sorry about that ladies and gentlemen but there was a plane in our way" announcement smile

surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Trevatanus said:
surveyor said:
Only seen 2

First was into Bristol on a windy night. Could see runway and suddenly up and away. It was impressive. Even more so when I realised just how windy it was getting off the plane.

Second was a bit less dramatic, but to me slightly more alarming, as the Aer Lingus pilot clearly viewed us in the back as cattle not worth talking to. Just heard the landing gear cycle down then back up and off we went around a merry-go around. A two second PA to say it's the airport that's got the problem not us would have been appreciated.
I would have been quite happy knowing that the pilot was using his full concentration on getting me down in once piece!
I would not be expecting a pa with gear up, but perhaps after things have calmed down....