Government grant ending?
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The news I have is that back in June when I ordered my ULEV with an expected lead time of 6 months, the dealer was nervous enough to get the application in then and gain a 9 month window in which to register the car for the grant to be guaranteed. He was doubtful if there'd be money left by Christmas.
Not quite an answer to your question, but may inform the debate a little I hope.
Not quite an answer to your question, but may inform the debate a little I hope.
In the Autumn statement there was nothing mentioned about the previous promised £500 million extension to the current grant been cut.
If anything the government seems quite committed to full EV cars.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-p...
The new grant is likely to favour full battery EVs like the Leaf/Zoe/i3 rather than hybrids like the GTE/Mitsubishi Outlander.
If anything the government seems quite committed to full EV cars.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-p...
The new grant is likely to favour full battery EVs like the Leaf/Zoe/i3 rather than hybrids like the GTE/Mitsubishi Outlander.
Boxbrownie said:
It makes perfect sense to differentiate between proper EVs and hybrids. The article doesn't say when the new grants will start...?toys said:
Boxbrownie said:
It makes perfect sense to differentiate between proper EVs and hybrids. The article doesn't say when the new grants will start...?Cat 1 is capped at 40,000 cars
Cat 2 & 3 is capped at 45,000 cars combined. Max list price of £60k list price.
I agree. Particularly as models of climate continue to fail to predict nature, highlighting our ignorance of CO2 and climate and any relationship there may or may not be between them.
It sounds hypocritical of me but it's tax payer money and god knows we pay enough tax in these bonkers green initiatives so I'm just getting some of it back
As regards current rates, I thought the money had gone
It sounds hypocritical of me but it's tax payer money and god knows we pay enough tax in these bonkers green initiatives so I'm just getting some of it back
As regards current rates, I thought the money had gone
whoami said:
It should be removed altogether.
You do not think the Government should be encouraging the take up of EV vehicles by the general public?Unless they put the money into State built/heavily subsidised charging stations every 50 miles or so on every road and byway the grant is the most direct way.
supermono said:
I agree. Particularly as models of climate continue to fail to predict nature, highlighting our ignorance of CO2 and climate and any relationship there may or may not be between them.
It sounds hypocritical of me but it's tax payer money and god knows we pay enough tax in these bonkers green initiatives so I'm just getting some of it back
As regards current rates, I thought the money had gone
As much as the great climate swindle continues like the religious hogwash that preceded it and will succeed it, encouraging electric vehicle use in cities has great benefits, I'd have one tomorrow but they've concentrated on making vast range of EV/PHEV hypercars/SUV's etc and won't build something as unnecessary as a 1 ton transit type vans, y'know the thing that london's full of, belching diesel fumes everywhere. Making more rich people chariots so they can drive around the city buying shoes and hats, thats what needed, not vans for tradesmen with tools and materials to carry.It sounds hypocritical of me but it's tax payer money and god knows we pay enough tax in these bonkers green initiatives so I'm just getting some of it back
As regards current rates, I thought the money had gone
hairyben said:
supermono said:
I agree. Particularly as models of climate continue to fail to predict nature, highlighting our ignorance of CO2 and climate and any relationship there may or may not be between them.
It sounds hypocritical of me but it's tax payer money and god knows we pay enough tax in these bonkers green initiatives so I'm just getting some of it back
As regards current rates, I thought the money had gone
As much as the great climate swindle continues like the religious hogwash that preceded it and will succeed it, encouraging electric vehicle use in cities has great benefits, I'd have one tomorrow but they've concentrated on making vast range of EV/PHEV hypercars/SUV's etc and won't build something as unnecessary as a 1 ton transit type vans, y'know the thing that london's full of, belching diesel fumes everywhere. Making more rich people chariots so they can drive around the city buying shoes and hats, thats what needed, not vans for tradesmen with tools and materials to carry.It sounds hypocritical of me but it's tax payer money and god knows we pay enough tax in these bonkers green initiatives so I'm just getting some of it back
As regards current rates, I thought the money had gone
FlossyThePig said:
iveco said:
“As things stand at present there is no way it makes business sense to run a Daily Electric van,” says Martin Flach, Iveco product director.
“An electric model will cost around £50,000 more than a diesel one and, if you count up the fuel savings and not paying the London Congestion Charge, it would take eight years of average fleet mileage to get your money back.
Thanks but not quite what I'm after, and lets be fair at the price they're really not trying to sell the thing are they.“An electric model will cost around £50,000 more than a diesel one and, if you count up the fuel savings and not paying the London Congestion Charge, it would take eight years of average fleet mileage to get your money back.
nissan en-v is closest, I could just about compromise with 80% of the loadspace and payload but the real life 60 miles range kills it.
The tech already exists, as either the nissan with 2x the battery or something like the phev outlander drivetrain in a standard panel van body.
Boxbrownie said:
whoami said:
It should be removed altogether.
You do not think the Government should be encouraging the take up of EV vehicles by the general public?Unless they put the money into State built/heavily subsidised charging stations every 50 miles or so on every road and byway the grant is the most direct way.
With these feet said:
While I admire those that can use one day to day, I fail to see why there should be any government backed incentive to buy one as they are pretty much out of reach financially to the majority of motorists and those that do buy them all seem to have 2 or 3 regular ICE vehicles. If you can afford to purchase a new car, you dont need help from taxpayers.
How will those who can't afford a new car get those cheaper second hand cars if not enough buy them (or more commonly) get them given as company cars.Plus I couldn't afford a second hand car so I 'bought/rented' a PCP brand new Nissan Leaf for £90 a month less than the finance/loan repayment on a £9k used car...
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