T350 to sagaris conversion
T350 to sagaris conversion
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gwilymlt28

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4 posts

206 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Hello all I am currently working on a t350 to sagaris conversion. So far I have removed the accident damaged t350 shell from the un damaged shell and have almost completed piecing together the sagaris shell (it came in many parts, back and front seperate etc)
I intend to do an engine swap to increase power so far on the short is obviously the Ls range, Dodge Viper or tuned Toyota supra.
I've not owned a Tvr before so I've just signed up to pistonheads so that as I go along I will be able to share ideas and more than anything ask for!

So first thing that is playing on my mind is if I should ajust the chassis with sagaris rear upper wishbones and sagaris wishbone mounting points (I have sourced copied parts)
Apparently it is a real bh changing the front ones....
Wheel spacers seem like a bodge
So the other solution I've just though of is seeings as I plan to increase power to 500-600bhp maybe wider rear wheels arnt such a bad idea? And whilst I'm at it I'll change the front ones adjusting them to fill the arches correctly with the offset
What do you think?

T4NGO

384 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Gonna follow this with interest. Good luck. Whats your background? Bodywork? Mechanic? Builder?
Where did you get the sag parts? Fibreon? Or those guys in London? I intend to do similar. Just acquiring the bits.

esso

1,849 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Good Luck with that and I hope it works out, a Buddy of mine did a Tuscan/Sagaris Targa conversion and its a beautiful car but I believe it cost a pretty penny to do it.

QBee

22,142 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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esso said:
Good Luck with that and I hope it works out, a Buddy of mine did a Tuscan/Sagaris Targa conversion and its a beautiful car but I believe it cost a pretty penny to do it.
If that's the orange one that was at Burghley, then it is stunning and I wanted to buy it there and then. IMHO a non-convertible TVR is not for me, and that car solved that issue
But then I got to thinking about eventual re-sale.....

gacksen

680 posts

166 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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QBee said:
If that's the orange one that was at Burghley, then it is stunning and I wanted to buy it there and then. IMHO a non-convertible TVR is not for me, and that car solved that issue
But then I got to thinking about eventual re-sale.....
thats exactly the problem that prevented my from buying. if done properly there is quite serious cash spent on that
sort of project but at the end of the day once you sell the car it´s still a tuscan or T350 in papers and this can
be a problem in regards of sale price of the car. otherwise for sure nice project

QBee

22,142 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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For whatever reason, at top or near top money, buyers seem to want a totally original, standard car.
As the owner of a well modified Chimaera, it annoys me, but it's the reality.

KillerJim

972 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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I'll certainly be watching this thread with interest too..

I'd be good if you could keep a build diary in this thread, explaining issues and problems (along with pics wink

My T350 is sitting idle over the winter and after owning a Sagaris I'm tempted to try the conversion myself!

ninetynine

537 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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you need one of these

alex_gray255

6,334 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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The money you end up spending getting one done might as well just buy an F-type convertible.

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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I've heard from a few people converting their cars to Sagaris or those converting them that you might as well just buy one given the cost to do so. In some cases it's cost more!

J12KJR

2,860 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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alex_gray255 said:
The money you end up spending getting one done might as well just buy an F-type convertible.
A strange comment from the king of modification, with what you must have spent on your Sag you could have purchased a serious bit of kit.

esso

1,849 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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gacksen said:
QBee said:
If that's the orange one that was at Burghley, then it is stunning and I wanted to buy it there and then. IMHO a non-convertible TVR is not for me, and that car solved that issue
But then I got to thinking about eventual re-sale.....
thats exactly the problem that prevented my from buying. if done properly there is quite serious cash spent on that
sort of project but at the end of the day once you sell the car it´s still a tuscan or T350 in papers and this can
be a problem in regards of sale price of the car. otherwise for sure nice project
That is the car I`m talking about and it has been done properly, it has had serious money spent on it and the right people have done the work.....you would struggle to find a better conversion.

esso

1,849 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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alex_gray255 said:
The money you end up spending getting one done might as well just buy an F-type convertible.
.....I kept my Cerb and bought an F-Type Coupe....very similar but also very different cars.

gwilymlt28

Original Poster:

4 posts

206 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I have worked as a mechanic in the past on and off and more recently am remapping I also have experience building so I'm fairly good with my hands and im not afraid to ask for help or advice. The body is not a body kit or a copy it is an original sagaris shell from the factory , I've no idea what happened to it before I bought it but it was incomplete and has taken quite a bit of 'glueing' together.
For those of you that are concerned about the costs, so far at least it has not been expensive and it is very unlikely I will sell it after its done anyway. I already have s small collection of 'never selling' toys to add to.

esso

1,849 posts

240 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Congratulations and I hope when its done its the car you want it to be, its great when people are individuals and want to create their own ideas of their perfect car, not everyone in the TVR world would agree with that statement but wouldn't life be boring if everyone was the same.

T4NGO

384 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Old shell, even better then. Was it the one on ebay a couple weeks ago? You beat me to that one if so furious lol

DJR 7

1,413 posts

280 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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ninetynine said:
you need one of these


This thread will be a good one to follow, The remarks about cost are relevant but its a personal decision.
I personally love the Sagaris but wanted open air driving, with that mind set costs become secondary.
I know both John and I built our cars because its what we wanted. residual value really isn't important.

Keep the photos coming, it'll be interesting to follow the progress

s6boy

1,787 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I remember others having issues fitting the Sagaris shell around a donor chassis pick up points or fuel tank position?
Sorry to be vague this was a while ago but it was a serious hinderance.

alex_gray255

6,334 posts

228 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Chassis and shell have a kink in them for the Sag at the front. They lean more to the left and are not symmetrical.

Might be an issue if mating non-Sag chassis to Sag shell, but nothing that can't be sorted.

QBee

22,142 posts

167 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Does the roof panel fit in the boot? One piece or two?