Battery in boot
Battery in boot
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wuckfitracing

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991 posts

172 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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So the plan is to relocate to the boot. Not decided yet if I should locate on top of fuel tank or in the nearside well but has anyone gone from the starter along the chassis and into the boot without going through the Driver/passenger compartment. This seems the shortest route but I cant fugure out how to get it into the boot. Anyone done it.
Thanks Colin.

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Just drill a hole where you like, it's only fibreglass.

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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From memory, I went under the carpet of the transmission tunnel, behind the passenger seat, into the recess where the door release mechanism is and through the recess at shoulder level over the wheel arch and into the boot.

portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Another option is behind the passenger in the cubby hole behind the seat, a little cutting and simple fibre glass work is required but we'll worth the effort, without putting anything near the fuel tank? Just initial outlay for an odessey battery which has lasted 4 years so far?




Edited by portzi on Tuesday 15th December 23:36

wuckfitracing

Original Poster:

991 posts

172 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Thanks for the replies but like I said I dont want to go through the cab. Its a shorter run straight to the boot along the chassis. So has anyone done it.

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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There is no reason why not, it is straightforward.

If you look at the base of the boot there are several holes which are probably for ventilation. You could use one of these or easily drill your own .

Have a look and you will see that the fuel pipe and return go through the bottom of the boots.

wuckfitracing

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991 posts

172 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Ah yes forgot about those pipes I will have a closer look tonight.

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Mat Smith took that route on my car - positive lead straight to starter motor along the chassis rail. My battery, like Phazed's,. is now a gel battery on top of the fuel tank.
After owning a number of lpg cars I have stopped worrying about fuel tanks etc.

I can have a look which way he went if it would help. Or phone him. He also used better thickness and quality cable.
He left the original battery to starter lead in place of course, to feed the fuse box. Amazingly electricity appears to be able to flow in either direction along a cable.....!

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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The benefit of locating it on top of the tank is that it doesn't get in the way of anything at all, especially the roof panel.




PS I am only at Newark on Trent, not that far from the bottom right bit of Derbyshire - you are most welcome to come over, have a good look and a ferret around, jack the car up and look underneath etc

Edited by QBee on Wednesday 16th December 08:48

cinquecento

558 posts

254 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Just relocated my battery too..ran the earth over the rear drivers side wheel arch and into the cavity where the door locks/solenoids are..then used the drivers side seat belt mount as an earth point. The positive was again over the rear wheel arch then inside the cavity along the base of the driver's side door (so technically it's not in the cabin). Positive lead was then ran behind the pedals to the starter motor. It's clean and the leads are invisible.

wuckfitracing

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991 posts

172 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Qbee thanks for the offer. What battery do you have, I think that's where I will put it, looks like the best position.

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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wuckfitracing said:
Qbee thanks for the offer. What battery do you have, I think that's where I will put it, looks like the best position.
Mine's an Odessey Extreme. You have to buy the cage too, and bolt it through the fiberglass. The small bolt heads disappear in the carpet below the rear window.
Not cheap, but the cranking power is awesome. Never had any low battery issues with mine.

pb450

1,305 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Mine's also in the boot now, courtesy of Dan Taylor, during the body-off job last year. From memory, I believe the new (thicker) cables run along the chassis. Can't be certain where they enter the boot though.

A good point made by Anthony is that by locating it on top of the fuel tank, it won't interfere with roof panel insertion into the boot. A battery in the space to the rear of the nearside wheel arch will hinder this. I know as my CD changer is located there now! No problem though as I insert the roof panel the other way round now, i.e. by using the offside wheel arch recess instead.

I also agree with Anthony's remark about not worrying about placing the battery on top of the tank - although I have no experience with LPG. If sparks and petrol mix, the result is obvious. However, you need to split the tank and short the battery to create this scenario. If this happens, you're probably in a fairly sorry state by this time anyway. Think how many production cars have the battery in the boot as standard.

Make sure you inform your insurance company of this mod, as you are obliged to do so. I did and they didn't have a problem with it.

Last tip (as mentioned above) is to use fatter cables for the increased length (and resulting increased resistance when hot) and you won't have any problems with cold starting.

Then the next time you need to disconnect or replace the battery, it'll be a doddle! thumbup

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Phazed added a cut-out handle right by the battery, so he could isolate the battery without need for a spanner. Neat move, just don't shut the boot lid with it isolated!!

He will probably post a photo if it, he's always helpful.

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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QBee said:
Phazed added a cut-out handle right by the battery, so he could isolate the battery without need for a spanner. Neat move, just don't shut the boot lid with it isolated!!

He will probably post a photo if it, he's always helpful.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't!

phazed

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233 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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wuckfitracing

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991 posts

172 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Thanks phazed. What model number battery did you use.

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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wuckfitracing said:
Thanks phazed. What model number battery did you use.
From NIMBUS MOTORSPORT.


Good Afternoon Peter,

Thank you again for your order of the Varley Red Top 30 battery.

This is packaged ready to be despatched later this afternoon and therefore should be with you tomorrow.

We have made a note for the courier that you are happy for the delivery to be placed in the open garage if nobody is home.

The dimensions for the battery are as follows:

LENGTH - 250mm
HEIGHT - 142mm
DEPTH - 97mm
WEIGHT - 10.6kg

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Qty
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Varley Race/Rally Red Top 30 Battery Mounting Bracket
Item Number 400552211323

£38.39 GBP
Amount
£38.39 GBP

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=varley+red+...

Edited by phazed on Wednesday 16th December 14:49

wuckfitracing

Original Poster:

991 posts

172 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Unbolted petrol tank. Looks like plenty of room behind tank to come up through the vent flap. New battery and battery clamp ordered. Thanks for the advice chaps.