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Simpo Two

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289 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Is this a serious camera? I can't pick my way through the BS. Is it just providing answers to questions that don't exist? What do the files look like and how do you process them? And what are 40 megarays anyway?

I undersand it records all focal planes so you can choose the focus afterwards, but is that it?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NFTVWH8?refR...

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

278 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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It's an irrelevance.

paul.deitch

2,287 posts

281 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Isn't that what Kodak said about digital?

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,559 posts

236 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I had a play with one at TheShowThatUsedToBeFocus earlier in the year. It's a fascinating piece of kit, and a new way of thinking about image capture.

I couldn't see how to make it work for me commercially though. The software for handling the images comes from the manufacturer, and I don't know if there's any third-party support for the files yet - Google may or may not provide more info.

Simpo Two

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Thursday 17th December 2015
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Thanks guys. It sounds more like a dead-end than the future of photography to me.

Krikkit

27,841 posts

205 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Thanks guys. It sounds more like a dead-end than the future of photography to me.
I'd say it has potential in the upcoming VR/3D boom.

Simpo Two

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Thursday 17th December 2015
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Haha, I remember all the previous VR/3D booms!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

278 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Lytro's latest product is a business level 360 vr system which whilst a good market for them is already very crowded

bashful

171 posts

254 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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From what I gathered about the earlier still camera, it doesn't capture at all distances, it captures sixteen fixed distances simultaneously. I'm pretty sure that 40 'megarays' comes from the fact that the sensor has 40 M photo receptors, but you only get a 2.5 megapixel output image because it uses sixteen photo receptors for each output pixel. All you do in software is pick between sixteen values for each pixel.

I realized all of this when you first got a chance to play with their refocusing on the web - you can't make small adjustments in the focus, just jump from one fixed plane to another.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

261 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Krikkit said:
I'd say it has potential in the upcoming VR/3D boom.
Please don't tell me there's going to be another 3D boom...

Simpo Two

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Friday 18th December 2015
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Please don't tell me there's going to be another 3D boom...
You still on 3D? I'm getting my 4D upgraded to 5D soon! It's got an extra 'D' in it apparently. Can't wait!

FurtiveFreddy

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261 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Simpo Two said:
You still on 3D? I'm getting my 4D upgraded to 5D soon! It's got an extra 'D' in it apparently. Can't wait!
ooooh, a 'double D'. Nice nuts

AREA

497 posts

249 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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I bought one a year ago our of curiosity and still find it a lot of fun.

Is it the main camera I reach for when we go out? No. But do I love it for mechanical subjects: cars, bits of engines, architecture. It's absolutely fascinating.

It's not a camera for high res photos but it doesn't pretend to be. However it does allow interesting 'video' (walking through the focal point and angles) to be made that are more than acceptable on up to 40" screen. It's a tool that repays careful thought and creative planning. Point and shoot it isn't.

It was a complete impulse purchase (only went in the camera shop to get out of the rain) but I don't regret it.


Is this kind of photography the future? A lot of people say "don't see the point". But I had exactly the same reaction from people when I had a CD player and mobile phone in the car in the mid 80s and, more surprisingly, Sat Nav in the early 2000s.

Give it 10 years and it might become mainstream. Or an early adopter memory.


Simpo Two

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Friday 18th December 2015
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Thanks, useful info. I can see it might lead to interesting video, but do the stills look just like ordinary photos?