LP570 Ceramics brakes

[GameOverMan!]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some guidance following the recent purchase of LP570 SuperLeggera ET, which has ceramic brakes.

I'm finding the brakes to be lacking in feel and effectiveness unless pushed really, really hard. I have put it down so far to the cold weather, but I'm wondering if changing the pads to a different compound might be an option.

I'm unlikely to use it on a track in the near future so brake fade isn't likely to happen during normal driving conditions. Has anyone experienced the same or have any recommendations, apart from MTFU.

Many thanks

GoM

[Alpinestars]

MTFU!! Couldn't resist that.

The Lambo ceramics notoriously lack feel, and are difficult to modulate and take some getting used to. However, they should be effective and pretty much an on off switch.

Oh, and congrats and get some pictures up.

[GameOverMan!]

[quote=Alpinestars]MTFU!! Couldn't resist that.

Absolutely, that's all I could think whilst typing the post, or you're a big girl's blouse grow a pair!

Thanks for the info, it's nice to know it's not just me. I managed to get out for a run this morning and the warmer weather improved the response slightly. However I still need to spend a lot more time learning the the different aspects of the car, which I'm looking forward too.

I'm loving the noise, the direct feeling of everything and the acres of carbon fibre. Finding myself giggling like a small child with it in sport mode, and especially with the window down. Love the engine blips.

I'll see if I sort out some pictures.

Thanks again,

GoM

[red_duke]

When my F430 ceramics were new there was an official progressive but aggressive beading-in procedure to be gone through before they were expected to work properly. A series of hard braking manoeuvres from ever higher speeds until they were cooked sufficiently. Perhaps Lambos need a similar process?

Edited by red_duke on Saturday 19th December 23:14

[AndrewD]

They are just very grabby. In my manual gen 1 SL it is very hard to heel and toe

[andrew]

AndrewD said:

They are just very grabby. In my manual gen 1 SL it is very hard to heel and toe

that's 'cause you drive in stilletos

[GameOverMan!]

andrew said:

that's 'cause you drive in stilletos

Hmmm, perhaps I should stop wearing flips flops...

It's not so much the brakes are grabby, it's more the amount of pressure that's required before they take effect. May be tthey do need bedding in properly, or the pads have glazed. Nothing was mentioned about new pads when I bought it.

It's going to Lamborghini Manchester next week so it'll interesting to hear what they have to say. If it's fine, then I'll have to get my Lardy rump to the gym and spend time on the leg press.

It's going to be embarrassing if it's my weak legs. :-)

[andrew]

similar issue when i last drove gallardos with them

no braking when i used "normal" pressure, press a little harder then bang - a full-on emergency stop !

good to see things have progressed since 2007

[GameOverMan!]

Absolutely, why develop things when you can just add lots of carbon fibre and a rear wing. As long as it looks pwitty someone will buy them. Like errr... me.

I must admit the reason I bought it was due to it's old school 'analogue' feel. I wanted something that would be a challenge rather than just hit the loud pedal, and the electronics do everything.

The ceramics on the Huracan are the complete opposite to the Gallardo. Lots of feel, not grabby and you don't need to jump on them to get a good response. Sounds like it's time to for me to get back to the gym.

Is there any other advice you can offer to keep it in tip top form?

[Wlr]

I agree totally with your old school reference after 6 years with a 430 spider with carbon brakes and F1 gearbox changed to Gallardo Spyder steel brakes and manual gearbox absolute refreshment so much more involving . It is not about going fast more about enjoying the drive.

[EpsomJames]

GameOverMan! said:

Hmmm, perhaps I should stop wearing flips flops...

It's not so much the brakes are grabby, it's more the amount of pressure that's required before they take effect. May be tthey do need bedding in properly, or the pads have glazed. Nothing was mentioned about new pads when I bought it.

It's going to Lamborghini Manchester next week so it'll interesting to hear what they have to say. If it's fine, then I'll have to get my Lardy rump to the gym and spend time on the leg press.

It's going to be embarrassing if it's my weak legs. :-)

Yeah doesn't sounds quite right. I also have a SL with CCBs, and while they do lack feel you don't need to stamp on them to get serious retardation. See what the dealer thinks.

[GameOverMan!]

EpsomJames said:

Yeah doesn't sounds quite right. I also have a SL with CCBs, and while they do lack feel you don't need to stamp on them to get serious retardation. See what the dealer thinks.

Cheers - this gives me hope that it's not just me. I have to wear shoes with stiff soles, stopping it quickly requires maximum leg force to stop. I had leg muscle ache the day after the first time I drove it.

[Anjum]

From my experience, the overall stopping power is second to none. It's the initial bite/gentle braking that is very difficult to modulate.

I think the phrase is "They all do that, sir!"

A

[GameOverMan!]

So, the car went to Lambo Manchester today. Essentially after having the technician thrash it around to test the brakes, the conclusion is that they're fine and working very well. Supposedly, it's just very difficult to get heat into them at this time of year. Which I can understand, but my 360 CS didn't require the same amount of physical effort.

In reality this means each winter I will have a right leg on a par with Arnie at the peak of his 80's 'buffness'. And in the summer, I'll be picking my teeth off the steering wheel as the brakes will be super aggressive - but boy will it stop quickly.

Awesome - who wants a civilised supercar car anyway. Sooo much fun... :-) Thanks for all the replies, I'll see if I can sort some pictures.

Cheers,

GoM