Nice Bloke Disease
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v8thunder

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27,647 posts

281 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Well it's about time it had it's own thread, and tonight's appropriate enough.

Any other PHers (apart from me and LM) find themselves lumbered with this affliction - lacking the animalistic aspects of girl-chasing etc, 'caring' too much, ending up with lots of 'friends' but not enough 'lovers'? Finding the way that swaggering, pushy men go about their attractions irritating bordering on the offensive, but somehow they're successful to your detriment?

More to the point, is there a cure?

vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Used to suffer from it alot, because you don't realise that women actually like that, but unless you 'close the deal' so to speak, then they loose interest.

v8thunder

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27,647 posts

281 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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'Close the deal'? Do you mean what I think you mean or something more, err, social?

Muncher

12,235 posts

272 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Yes, I suffer from it. Badly. Every girl I am close to says I am far too nice

vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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It means make a pass at them, not just like 'expect it to happen'.

v8thunder

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27,647 posts

281 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Thing is, until now I've never thought you could be too nice. Have I just fatally misjudged human nature or something?

v8thunder

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27,647 posts

281 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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vixpy1 said:
It means make a pass at them, not just like 'expect it to happen'.


Thought so. Problem is I find that seems to unsettle the situation. Perhaps I'm too easy to make friends with then?

vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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v8thunder said:
Thing is, until now I've never thought you could be too nice.


You can't be too nice, but a bit of confidence is what is lacking in most nice guys, women LOVE confidence... but never let it turn into arrogance.

Bodo

12,500 posts

289 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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v8thunder said:
Thing is, until now I've never thought you could be too nice. Have I just fatally misjudged human nature or something?
No, you have misjudged female human's attraction/mating criteria.

telecat

8,528 posts

264 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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I'm a "Nice guy" to a point. Like many others I have my vices

DuncanM

7,285 posts

302 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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v8thunder said:
Well it's about time it had it's own thread, and tonight's appropriate enough.

Any other PHers (apart from me and LM) find themselves lumbered with this affliction - lacking the animalistic aspects of girl-chasing etc, 'caring' too much, ending up with lots of 'friends' but not enough 'lovers'? Finding the way that swaggering, pushy men go about their attractions irritating bordering on the offensive, but somehow they're successful to your detriment?

More to the point, is there a cure?


Interesting thread.

Never had this problem myself and yet have Girls who are friends .

I think if you fancy a girl then it's best not to be too matey with them without making them aware of the fact that they 'don't 'alf give you the 'orn'.

Girls like to know that they have a physical effect on Men so make sure they know it.

You don't have to be arrogant to do this .

Duncan

wolves_wanderer

12,927 posts

260 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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vixpy1 said:
Used to suffer from it alot, because you don't realise that women actually like that, but unless you 'close the deal' so to speak, then they loose interest.




I got bored of hearing girls say "I like you, just not like that" or "your a great friend but.." so I changed my behaviour. I never became a bastard because I'm not like that but you do have to be more forward, they won't think less of you for trying.

I am now a serial monogamist, I have long, good quality relationships and have not been single for more than a month since I was 18 (8 years.) It's not just because I'm superb company, amazingly good-looking and hung like a grand-national winner - although all that helps

From reading your posts it seems like you have the same outlook as I used to in my teen years. You don't have to radically change the way you treat women just let them know you could be tempted into more than just friendship, how you do that depends on your personality at the moment. If you have loads of girls who think of you as mates, then try their mates, then try their mates mates. I lived with 5 girls at uni and although there was no shagging with them, their friends did not have a preconception of me as a mate, therefore, result.

So now, how do you do it? Well my young padowan, discover that for yourself you must.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Sorry guys, you need that bad glint in your eye too Sure, nice is ok, but at your ages, boring....

Women want a little excitement too

v8thunder

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27,647 posts

281 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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BliarOut said:
Sorry guys, you need that bad glint in your eye too Sure, nice is ok, but at your ages, boring....

Women want a little excitement too


Ah, but 'edge of danger' is different from 'edge of mysogenism', which I find a lot of serial lotharios seem to border on, unfortunately. Maybe it's hard to tell apart when you've only known someone 5 minutes.

vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Used to get hung up over girls for months of even years. These days I find out if there is a thing there, if not.. its on to the next one.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

274 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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Stop being kind and say what's on your mind. Like "I'd like to get to know you better - would you like to go for a meal", and get to know her. When you know them, then say you'd like to date them.

I recommend two neutral dates where you leave alone, on date three invite them over and walk to the restaurant / cinema etc.

When you get back 9 times out of ten she will stay.

Of course you could just say you're interested by suggesting she comes over and that bringing a toothbrush might be a nice idea.

I am of course no expert but it worked with my wife, so there is at least some record of success.

GregE240

10,857 posts

290 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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I've never had this problem.

Okay, so I had a break for about 13 years.....

vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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I'm always a firm believer in giving a girl a smacker on the lips on the first date.She will always let you know whether she likes you during the date,even if its just a little and she's not sure.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

274 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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vixpy1 said:
I'm always a firm believer in giving a girl a smacker on the lips on the first date.She will always let you know whether she likes you during the date,even if its just a little and she's not sure.


Aren't you single? Doesn't that say something?

ScOoBz

6,578 posts

271 months

Monday 14th February 2005
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vixpy1 said:
Used to suffer from it alot.


I find that hard to believe i've met you...

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