Jaguar F-Type Alternatives for bangs, crackles and pops
Jaguar F-Type Alternatives for bangs, crackles and pops
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jc74

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52 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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I'm starting to look for a car to use on my daily 6 mile commute, which involves parking at a public car park during the day. I've tried out a Jaguar F-Type V6S Convertible with the switchable active exhaust and love the bang it makes on upshift, and the crackles and pops on overrun when you lift off the throttle, especially the fact you don't really have to push it very hard to get this.

Now, given it's a commute car, I'm not really bothered by the looks, and the fact the car is quite wide and it is 2 doors with really long doors is a negative thing since I need to be able to get in and out of the car in potentially tight space. Also I won't really be making much use of the sub 5 second 0-60 time.

So the question is, rather than spending around 40k for a car, which admittedly is a very nice car to drive and have (and nice enough to forego the practicality), what are my alternatives given the following criteria...

1> Must give a nice parp/bang/pop on upshift
2> Must have crackles and pops on overrun (and sound almost as loud as the F-Type)
3> Must be Automatic (lots of traffic on the way home)
4> Less than 35k in price (basically significantly cheaper than an F-Type)
5> 3 years old or newer (less than 50k miles on the clock)
6> 0-60 in <7.5 secs (I need 'reasonable' performance!)
7> Must be cheaper to buy and own than the F-Type (or I might as well get the F-Type!)
8> Not a Porsche (edited to add this line in)

So far my short list is:-
1> Jaguar F-Type V6/V6S convertible with switchable Active Exhaust (but does bust the budget)
2> Mini Cooper S 5dr automatic with switchable JCW Pro Exhaust

Other cars I've thought about but do not fullfill requirements...
a> Audi TT Coupe mk3 S-Tronic (no pops on overrun)
b> BMW 135i 5dr (no pops on overrun)

Any suggestions on a car which would fulfill all of my criteria are most welcome.

Thanks!

(updated with some of the feedback)


Edited by jc74 on Sunday 20th December 12:13


Edited by jc74 on Sunday 20th December 12:26

k-ink

9,070 posts

208 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Sorry no ideas other than an older TVR, which may not suit!

I also adore the F-type looks and sounds. I will own the 5.0 in years to come, after some epic depreciation.

The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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M135i 8AT with MPS exhaust.

Job done.

smile

justin220

5,737 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Audi Rs3?

Although why not the F-Type? Sounds like its the car you want. At £40k I doubt you'd lose much either?

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

211 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Corvette.

adeel_gt

226 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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A45 AMG

jc74

Original Poster:

52 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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The original Nick the Greek said:
M135i 8AT with MPS exhaust.

Job done.

smile
Do you know how much the MPS exhaust would set me back, and do you have to really push it to get the pops on overrun?
Noticed that you can get a 2 year old M135i 8AT for around £22k...

jc74

Original Poster:

52 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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adeel_gt said:
A45 AMG
Does the A45 AMG give the bangs and pops under normal driving with a stock exhaust or will it need modification first?

DS197

992 posts

135 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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jc74 said:
Does the A45 AMG give the bangs and pops under normal driving with a stock exhaust or will it need modification first?
The A45 sounds horrible and fake imo. Have a look on YouTube at some of the videos

jc74

Original Poster:

52 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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justin220 said:
Audi Rs3?

Although why not the F-Type? Sounds like its the car you want. At £40k I doubt you'd lose much either?
I've driven an RS3 back to back after an RS7 and actually found it more fun! - It's a great car.
My problem is the Mini Cooper S gets me what I want for half the price, but it doesn't sound quite as good. A current model RS3 however is a bit too close in price to the F-Type.


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

225 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Any porsche with PSE (porsche sports exhaust).

jc74

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52 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Any porsche with PSE (porsche sports exhaust).
Sorry, but can't be a Porsche... Got a 997.2S with PSE already (which unfortunately doesn't have the pops on overrun - I believe it's the 981 and 991's which do but they cost more than an F-Type!).


The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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jc74 said:
Do you know how much the MPS exhaust would set me back, and do you have to really push it to get the pops on overrun?
Noticed that you can get a 2 year old M135i 8AT for around £22k...
I believe you can get the exhaust circa £700.

I've seen very positive feedback on the "pops on overrun' front!

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

164 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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DS197 said:
jc74 said:
Does the A45 AMG give the bangs and pops under normal driving with a stock exhaust or will it need modification first?
The A45 sounds horrible and fake imo. Have a look on YouTube at some of the videos
Agreed - he may as well save himself a fortune and buy a previous generation Astra VXR and fit a mahoosive exhaust to it.

V88Dicky

7,366 posts

212 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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SLK55 AMG?

You're budget should get a very nice, lightly used 2-3 year old one. A simple and cheap exhaust mod (remove the secondary cats and resonator, replace with straight pipes + X pipe / H pipe), and hey presto! Pops and bangs thumbup

It's also the last normally-aspirated AMG V8, something that should be treasured.


Magic919

14,458 posts

230 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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jc74 said:
Sorry, but can't be a Porsche... Got a 997.2S with PSE already (which unfortunately doesn't have the pops on overrun - I believe it's the 981 and 991's which do but they cost more than an F-Type!).
Fit the Sharkwerks bypass instead of the centre silencer to hear more of the noise. Quite good on the overrun.

Edited by Magic919 on Sunday 20th December 13:37

Swordman

452 posts

193 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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How about a Subaru STI? I know the wrx comes with an auto box, the STI might, but I'm not sure.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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DS197 said:
The A45 sounds horrible and fake imo.
Popping and banging on _anything_ even vaguely modern is faked. "Real" popping and banging comes from the spontaneous combustion of unburnt fuel in the exhaust. Nothing with mapped injection does that, and it would be emissions-test death.

DS197

992 posts

135 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Popping and banging on _anything_ even vaguely modern is faked. "Real" popping and banging comes from the spontaneous combustion of unburnt fuel in the exhaust. Nothing with mapped injection does that, and it would be emissions-test death.
Are you talking about the systems that inject fuel directly in to the exhaust?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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DS197 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Popping and banging on _anything_ even vaguely modern is faked. "Real" popping and banging comes from the spontaneous combustion of unburnt fuel in the exhaust. Nothing with mapped injection does that, and it would be emissions-test death.
Are you talking about the systems that inject fuel directly in to the exhaust?
However it's done, it's done deliberately, rather than being a knock-on or an inherent characteristic.