Where are ex-lease cars cars sold?
Where are ex-lease cars cars sold?
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gmaz

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5,358 posts

239 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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With the number of descent cars on lease these days, it makes me wonder were these cars are sold on when they come to end of the lease and they will be well maintained, 2-3 years old and have low mileage.

Is there anywhere joe public can buy these cars?

loose cannon

6,056 posts

270 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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If you pop along to your local main dealer you will find most of the quality used cars are x lease cars,

Truckosaurus

13,217 posts

313 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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When my Volvo came to the end of the lease, a chap came from BCA to collect it.

He said Volvo get first pick of the cars for their dealer network (the dealers bid against each other in closed auctions), then rest go through BCA's more open auctions.

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

264 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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loose cannon said:
If you pop along to your local main dealer you will find most of the quality used cars are x lease cars,
As above. They will get collected from you and taken straight to auction. These are often "closed" so only open to trade buyers. The cars then typically turn up as "approved Used" on a dealer forecourt.

confused_buyer

7,126 posts

210 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Virtually all BMW approved used cars at main dealers are bought at BCA or Manheim - there are weekly sales around the country. The prices are usually high.

VWFS (Audi, VW etc.), Mercedes, PSA....all sell their ex-lease/PCP stuff at auction usually one or both of BCA or Manheim although Mercedes also use Aston Barclay.

IanCress

4,409 posts

195 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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My car is ex-lease, and I bought it from a car supermarket at 36k miles and 3 years old.

TTOBES

610 posts

196 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Damn. Does this mean then that my friend's leased S8, which he is looking after like it is his own, is highly likely to turn up at an Audi dealer in 1.5 years' time, as opposed to the BCA website for the public auctions?

Super Slo Mo

5,374 posts

227 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Depends. He can make a request to buy it at the end of the lease. Some lease companies allow this as it saves them time and money.
I was offered it with my last car, at a very competitive price compared to retail.

jimi

521 posts

292 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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TTOBES said:
Damn. Does this mean then that my friend's leased S8, which he is looking after like it is his own, is highly likely to turn up at an Audi dealer in 1.5 years' time, as opposed to the BCA website for the public auctions?
It does indeed.

giger

732 posts

223 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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The lease companies have high targets when it comes to de-fleeting - absolutely everything is calculated. The best way to achieve the results is to go to trade only auction. Many people think that they'll be able to snap up an ex fleet company cars at public auction, and you can, but the big boys use trade only auctions as has been pointed out above.

Also, a lot of cars are also bought unseen, I have seen a trade bidding app for ex-fleet cars that only go to virtual auction. Photo's and inspection reports are provided so the buyer knows exactly what they will get (unlike many public car auctions!).

Most 'approved used' cars come from these trade auctions.

Marcellus

7,203 posts

248 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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When we chopped in our Volvo "mid lease" (don't ask) the dealer we bought the replacement car (Merc) from punted the car out through its Volvo franchise.

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

292 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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confused_buyer said:
Virtually all BMW approved used cars at main dealers are bought at BCA or Manheim - there are weekly sales around the country. The prices are usually high.

VWFS (Audi, VW etc.), Mercedes, PSA....all sell their ex-lease/PCP stuff at auction usually one or both of BCA or Manheim although Mercedes also use Aston Barclay.
Merc lease stuff the good stuff are shipped to Ambrosetti who retail prep the cars then ship them out to various Merc dealers....only the junk goes direct to auction.

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

179 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Phil Dicky said:
confused_buyer said:
Virtually all BMW approved used cars at main dealers are bought at BCA or Manheim - there are weekly sales around the country. The prices are usually high.

VWFS (Audi, VW etc.), Mercedes, PSA....all sell their ex-lease/PCP stuff at auction usually one or both of BCA or Manheim although Mercedes also use Aston Barclay.
Merc lease stuff the good stuff are shipped to Ambrosetti who retail prep the cars then ship them out to various Merc dealers....only the junk goes direct to auction.
I collected a lovely GLA220 from Ambrosetti and delivered it to a MB main dealer only this afternoon. smile

The scale of the industry that deals with de-fleeting/ re marketing is mind bogglingly huge.
There's a Manhiem auction a Bruntingthorpe that has, I think, 6 lanes. They'll punt through over 300 cars in a few hours. It's quite a sight seeing them all lined up in the morning, come back 3 hours later and they're all gone!

Cabsi

301 posts

168 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Buff Mchugelarge said:
Phil Dicky said:
confused_buyer said:
Virtually all BMW approved used cars at main dealers are bought at BCA or Manheim - there are weekly sales around the country. The prices are usually high.

VWFS (Audi, VW etc.), Mercedes, PSA....all sell their ex-lease/PCP stuff at auction usually one or both of BCA or Manheim although Mercedes also use Aston Barclay.
Merc lease stuff the good stuff are shipped to Ambrosetti who retail prep the cars then ship them out to various Merc dealers....only the junk goes direct to auction.
I collected a lovely GLA220 from Ambrosetti and delivered it to a MB main dealer only this afternoon. smile

The scale of the industry that deals with de-fleeting/ re marketing is mind bogglingly huge.
There's a Manhiem auction a Bruntingthorpe that has, I think, 6 lanes. They'll punt through over 300 cars in a few hours. It's quite a sight seeing them all lined up in the morning, come back 3 hours later and they're all gone!
Is there anyway for the general public to get access to the prices paid at these auctions? Would make interesting reading..

tumble dryer

2,372 posts

156 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Buff Mchugelarge said:
Phil Dicky said:
confused_buyer said:
Virtually all BMW approved used cars at main dealers are bought at BCA or Manheim - there are weekly sales around the country. The prices are usually high.

VWFS (Audi, VW etc.), Mercedes, PSA....all sell their ex-lease/PCP stuff at auction usually one or both of BCA or Manheim although Mercedes also use Aston Barclay.
Merc lease stuff the good stuff are shipped to Ambrosetti who retail prep the cars then ship them out to various Merc dealers....only the junk goes direct to auction.
I collected a lovely GLA220 from Ambrosetti and delivered it to a MB main dealer only this afternoon. smile

The scale of the industry that deals with de-fleeting/ re marketing is mind bogglingly huge.
There's a Manhiem auction a Bruntingthorpe that has, I think, 6 lanes. They'll punt through over 300 cars in a few hours. It's quite a sight seeing them all lined up in the morning, come back 3 hours later and they're all gone!
Thinking about that, you're so right.

All those new cars, three years ago, and all that money still in the metal.

That's a serious size of an 'aftermarket' industry, right there.



rich888

2,610 posts

228 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Buff Mchugelarge said:
Phil Dicky said:
confused_buyer said:
Virtually all BMW approved used cars at main dealers are bought at BCA or Manheim - there are weekly sales around the country. The prices are usually high.

VWFS (Audi, VW etc.), Mercedes, PSA....all sell their ex-lease/PCP stuff at auction usually one or both of BCA or Manheim although Mercedes also use Aston Barclay.
Merc lease stuff the good stuff are shipped to Ambrosetti who retail prep the cars then ship them out to various Merc dealers....only the junk goes direct to auction.
I collected a lovely GLA220 from Ambrosetti and delivered it to a MB main dealer only this afternoon. smile

The scale of the industry that deals with de-fleeting/ re marketing is mind bogglingly huge.
There's a Manhiem auction a Bruntingthorpe that has, I think, 6 lanes. They'll punt through over 300 cars in a few hours. It's quite a sight seeing them all lined up in the morning, come back 3 hours later and they're all gone!
A few years ago I purchased a new Toyota IQ on a 3 year lease from the local Toyota dealer using Toyota finance, when it came up for renewal some guys from Manheim collected the car for auctioning later that day at Bruntingthorpe, they wandered round the car and inspected it noting mileage, dents and other signs of wear and tear on their report, then off they went. From what I can gather it is a closed 'trade only' auction.

I have a feeling my Toyota IQ would have ended back on another official Toyota dealer's forecourt before the end of the day.

Would be fantastic to see what stuff goes through their doors on a daily basis and even more of an eyeopener to see what prices are being paid by the dealers.

vanordinaire

3,701 posts

191 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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I usually buy ex lease cars from Scottish Motor Auction Group. The Edinburgh(Livingstone) branch has a fleet sale every Wednesday which is open to the public. I prefer ex-Motability cars which tend to be low mileage but they sell ex lease too. You can view the cars online and bid online too. http://www.sma-group.co.uk/sales#

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

164 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Mines just turned up on AT this week at what looks like a back street trader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
Was returned 4th September.
It's on AT along with several cars in the same Reg number batch.

Blakewater

4,542 posts

186 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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It's remarkable how much damage people can do to a car in a short time though. This Astra is a month old and covered in dents, scuffs and broken bits. I wonder if it's all been done in one mishap where it's gone off the edge of the road somewhere.

http://www.sma-group.co.uk/stock-lists/Stock-Detai...

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Too many miles for the dealer network so would've been punted through the normal auctions open to all and sundry.