Sag startup after a month
Discussion
Merry Christmas everyone.
Now its 10am and most houses look a bomb site, paper and boxes everywhere. Kids going mad and playing with the boxes it all came in.
Adult time now...
My sag hasn't moved for over a month. Been tucked away in the garage with its ctek drip in (but the tam has seen plenty of action).
Whats the best startup routine? Should I check the oil before starting it? I been told let it warm up and then shut down and check oil 5 mins later. Some say don't leave running to warm up, drive instantly. Some say don't drive instantly.... Been told don't rev it, rev it. (little revs not engine seizing 4k+ cold ones of course). Wait till fans kick in and shut down. On and on.
So are there any definitive answers or is it all down to people opinions only??
If I check oil now, while cold, what should be on the dipstick (benefits of this are I can hold it - not so easy hot!)
Normal routine is open garage doors, start and pull out onto drive. It's then left running while I close the garage and gate. Then in and drive off. Waiting till water 70+ and oil 40+ before playing.
Assuming once parked back, shut all gates and doors etc, would this then be a good time to check oil? So I know it's OK, before tucking it away? Or is it too soon and all the oil not sunk and I then over fill it? Leave it 5 mins? 10 mins?
All the options are enough to drive me crazy!
Now its 10am and most houses look a bomb site, paper and boxes everywhere. Kids going mad and playing with the boxes it all came in.
Adult time now...
My sag hasn't moved for over a month. Been tucked away in the garage with its ctek drip in (but the tam has seen plenty of action).
Whats the best startup routine? Should I check the oil before starting it? I been told let it warm up and then shut down and check oil 5 mins later. Some say don't leave running to warm up, drive instantly. Some say don't drive instantly.... Been told don't rev it, rev it. (little revs not engine seizing 4k+ cold ones of course). Wait till fans kick in and shut down. On and on.
So are there any definitive answers or is it all down to people opinions only??
If I check oil now, while cold, what should be on the dipstick (benefits of this are I can hold it - not so easy hot!)
Normal routine is open garage doors, start and pull out onto drive. It's then left running while I close the garage and gate. Then in and drive off. Waiting till water 70+ and oil 40+ before playing.
Assuming once parked back, shut all gates and doors etc, would this then be a good time to check oil? So I know it's OK, before tucking it away? Or is it too soon and all the oil not sunk and I then over fill it? Leave it 5 mins? 10 mins?
All the options are enough to drive me crazy!
chris watton said:
Never heard of them before, are they readily available?
Attention Chris : do not release your wallet. Keep that money safely locked up. This is the UK not Canada it is 14 degrees outside. Add to that, your engine is filled with multi grade oil, hence you don't need one unless you are a snake oil collector
Multi grade oil:
The temperature range the oil is exposed to in most vehicles can be wide, ranging from cold temperatures in the winter before the vehicle is started up, to hot operating temperatures when the vehicle is fully warmed up in hot summer weather. A specific oil will have high viscosity when cold and a lower viscosity at the engine's operating temperature. The difference in viscosities for most single-grade oil is too large between the extremes of temperature. To bring the difference in viscosities closer together, special polymer additives called viscosity index improvers, or VIIs are added to the oil. These additives are used to make the oil a multi-grade motor oil, though it is possible to have a multi-grade oil without the use of VIIs. The idea is to cause the multi-grade oil to have the viscosity of the base grade when cold and the viscosity of the second grade when hot. This enables one type of oil to be used all year. In fact, when multi-grades were initially developed, they were frequently described as all-season oil. The viscosity of a multi-grade oil still varies logarithmically with temperature, but the slope representing the change is lessened. [clarification needed] This slope representing the change with temperature depends on the nature and amount of the additives to the base oil.
The SAE designation for multi-grade oils includes two viscosity grades; for example, 10W-30 designates a common multi-grade oil. The first number '10W' is the viscosity of the oil at cold temperature and the second number is the viscosity at 100 °C (212 °F). The two numbers used are individually defined by SAE J300 for single-grade oils. Therefore, an oil labeled as 10W-30 must pass the SAE J300 viscosity grade requirement for both 10W and 30, and all limitations placed on the viscosity grades (for example, a 10W-30 oil must fail the J300 requirements at 5W). Also, if an oil does not contain any VIIs, and can pass as a multi-grade, that oil can be labelled with either of the two SAE viscosity grades. For example, a very simple multi-grade oil that can be easily made with modern base oils without any VII is a 20W-20. This oil can be labeled as 20W-20, 20W, or 20. Note, if any VIIs are used however, then that oil cannot be labeled as a single grade.
m4tti said:
chris watton said:
Never heard of them before, are they readily available?
Attention Chris : do not release your wallet. Keep that money safely locked up. This is the UK not Canada it is 14 degrees outside. Add to that, your engine is filled with multi grade oil, hence you don't need one unless you are a snake oil collector
I know... I was just curious as I'd never heard of such a thing before. m4tti said:
I think what we really need is the TVR official myth busters thread
did put one of those under the oil pan of the chin as i thought i would drive in the winter what i never did coupled with a gsm electric socket in the garage so i could heat up the car while doing workout on the couch Bored, so just checking all TVR threads.
When I first bought a Chimaera, I lusted after a Sagaris.
But I like a car I can just drive.....no faff, no start up procedure, just start and pop over to Asda (it's 3 miles as the crow flies, 53 milers as the Chimaera flies) for that forgotten pint of milk.
Do they do a convertible Sagaris with an LS engine?
When I first bought a Chimaera, I lusted after a Sagaris.
But I like a car I can just drive.....no faff, no start up procedure, just start and pop over to Asda (it's 3 miles as the crow flies, 53 milers as the Chimaera flies) for that forgotten pint of milk.
Do they do a convertible Sagaris with an LS engine?
gacksen said:
did put one of those under the oil pan of the chin as i thought i would drive in the winter what i never did coupled with a gsm electric socket in the garage so i could heat up the car while doing workout on the couch
If your driving you car over winter, get it coupled with a gsm electric socket in the garage so i could heat up the car while doing workout on the couch For those who hibernate their cars for 6 months like M4tti 
Don't. I just use in the winter. Wifi App. WeMo Plug...Timer for an hour and a half heats up the oil and your at 45 degrees as your pulling away. Or press a button on your App if you fancy a quick blast in a while! I've attached mine so it sits in the vents on my T350 and will do the same on the Sag, so you don't have to lift the bonnet up etc. It's connected to a lawnmower connector, simple. Less wear and tear etc. Just be mindful to let the oil pressure drop and water temp rise and take it easy I've also got the plug hooked up to a heater fan in the garage so the cars nicely warm too Maybe a little OTT lol, however I like to know I'm looking after her and i love gadgets!ShiDevil said:
If your driving you car over winter, get it For those who hibernate their cars for 6 months like M4tti Don't. I just use in the winter. Wifi App. WeMo Plug...Timer for an hour and a half heats up the oil and your at 45 degrees as your pulling away. Or press a button on your App if you fancy a quick blast in a while! I've attached mine so it sits in the vents on my T350 and will do the same on the Sag, so you don't have to lift the bonnet up etc. It's connected to a lawnmower connector, simple. Less wear and tear etc. Just be mindful to let the oil pressure drop and water temp rise and take it easy I've also got the plug hooked up to a heater fan in the garage so the cars nicely warm too Maybe a little OTT lol, however I like to know I'm looking after her and i love gadgets!
Read the multi grade oil explanation... Less wear and tear wtf are you on about. For those who hibernate their cars for 6 months like M4tti Don't. I just use in the winter. Wifi App. WeMo Plug...Timer for an hour and a half heats up the oil and your at 45 degrees as your pulling away. Or press a button on your App if you fancy a quick blast in a while! I've attached mine so it sits in the vents on my T350 and will do the same on the Sag, so you don't have to lift the bonnet up etc. It's connected to a lawnmower connector, simple. Less wear and tear etc. Just be mindful to let the oil pressure drop and water temp rise and take it easy I've also got the plug hooked up to a heater fan in the garage so the cars nicely warm too Maybe a little OTT lol, however I like to know I'm looking after her and i love gadgets!And how would you know if I hibernate my car. You live in funking Peterborough.
You post absolute b
ks regurgitated from a selection of "specialists". Like the suspension and the throttle body thread. We really need that myth busters thread, so we can have engineering or physics over bks. m4tti said:
Read the multi grade oil explanation... Less wear and tear wtf are you on about.
And how would you know if I hibernate my car. You live in funking Peterborough.
You post absolute bks regurgitated from a selection of "specialists". Like the suspension and the throttle body thread. We really need that myth busters thread, so we can have engineering or physics over bks.
Say what you really think!And how would you know if I hibernate my car. You live in funking Peterborough.
You post absolute b
ks regurgitated from a selection of "specialists". Like the suspension and the throttle body thread. We really need that myth busters thread, so we can have engineering or physics over bks. 
QBee said:
When I first bought a Chimaera, I lusted after a Sagaris.
But I like a car I can just drive.....no faff, no start up procedure, just start and pop over to Asda (it's 3 miles as the crow flies, 53 milers as the Chimaera flies) for that forgotten pint of milk.
I owned a Chimaera 500 before I owned the Sagaris, and I haven't experienced any difference in startup procedure or how I drive it, other than the fact that being dry-sumped it takes longer to come up to temperature. But I like a car I can just drive.....no faff, no start up procedure, just start and pop over to Asda (it's 3 miles as the crow flies, 53 milers as the Chimaera flies) for that forgotten pint of milk.
But if that's how you justify in your mind that it's not worth having a Sag then you crack on.
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