Audi S5 break replacement help!!
Audi S5 break replacement help!!
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FezzaDude

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381 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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so I have a 2013 s5 which has gone to Audi for service and MOT today. Get a call advising the following:

Front disks and pads need replacing 90% worn - £580
Rear pads need replacing 85% worn - £330

Can break discs need replacing after only 26000 miles?!!

The above prices seem excessive I think?

I know a very good independent Audi mechanic who will probably do a better job and be cheaper. Would an independent doing the work cause me issue in the future when I come to sell the car and affect value?

Thoughts/advise welcome smile
Thanks

Deerfoot

5,255 posts

215 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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I'd get the work done by the indy considering the car is out of factory warranty. I can't see it reducing the value of the car at all.

FezzaDude

Original Poster:

381 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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I was going to extend the Audi warranty in January. Would the warranty be invalidated if the Indy was to do the work?

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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If I am not mistaken, the S5 will have pad wear indicators, probably front only so the question to ask is have the pad wear indicators come on? I have had dealers try this on so many times that it is as normal to them as anyone else saying hello.

In my S4 I typically get 60k miles out of the front brakes and the rears are currently at 100k but if the discs have been left and the surface corroded then the discs and pads should be changed, this is most likely on the rears. If the brakes are used gently, these never really get used to clean the surface rust off the disc surface. I regularly indulge in a bit of hard braking to ensure the rear brakes get used and limit the corrosion damage to the discs.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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As for pricing, that isn't bad for an S5, the fronts on my S4 were £750 fitted.

and they are called stealers for a reason...

k20erham

375 posts

157 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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Audi do Not make any brakes fitted to any of their cars!! Brembo ATE make brake parts and Audi buy them for peanuts!! Ring ECP with your reg and ask for Brembo or Padgid OE spec parts you will be amazed, genuine Brembo discs and pads as fitted by Audi new supplied by them for my S8 D3 V10 £215 inc Vat.. Simples

k20erham

375 posts

157 months

Tuesday 29th December 2015
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In fact could not resist looking on ECP's 2013 S5 Brembo £33.52 each rears £40.96 each full set of pads £125.00 job lot £270ish!!

FezzaDude

Original Poster:

381 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th December 2015
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gottans said:
If I am not mistaken, the S5 will have pad wear indicators, probably front only so the question to ask is have the pad wear indicators come on? I have had dealers try this on so many times that it is as normal to them as anyone else saying hello.

In my S4 I typically get 60k miles out of the front brakes and the rears are currently at 100k but if the discs have been left and the surface corroded then the discs and pads should be changed, this is most likely on the rears. If the brakes are used gently, these never really get used to clean the surface rust off the disc surface. I regularly indulge in a bit of hard braking to ensure the rear brakes get used and limit the corrosion damage to the discs.
Nope no indicators have come on and visual inspection of disc brakes look ok. Dealer did say indicator will come when break pads only have about 500 miles left in them.

KungFuPanda

4,645 posts

201 months

Wednesday 30th December 2015
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Ask them if the car will pass theMOT with the current brake setup.

PapaJohns

1,064 posts

184 months

Wednesday 30th December 2015
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Your warranty is intact as long as the indi you use is v.a.t registered .Gov changed the law back in 05' ish so they didn't have you by the balls


Easternlight

3,960 posts

175 months

Wednesday 30th December 2015
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Ask them why they are quoting more than their fixed price servicing?

http://www.audi.co.uk/owners-area/servicing-mainte...

Rear pads £199
Front discs and pads £475

Still ridiculous prices but that's what they do best!

Then take it to somebody who you trust to look at it and tell you what really needs doing.

Edited by Easternlight on Wednesday 30th December 23:57

FezzaDude

Original Poster:

381 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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KungFuPanda said:
Ask them if the car will pass theMOT with the current brake setup.
The car passed its MOT no problem...and they did not even mention any advisories at all regarding brakes!!
Fishy.....

thebraketester

15,829 posts

169 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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eBay item number 360790786920. Front discs and pads for 115 quid minted are decent too.

fatboy b

9,665 posts

247 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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Audi dealers are generally arrseholes when it comes to brakes. One of mine went through 2 services with me being warned that they were low. Eventually done at the third service. Long life services too, so about 17k apart.

Deerfoot

5,255 posts

215 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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fatboy b said:
Audi dealers are generally arrseholes when it comes to brakes. One of mine went through 2 services with me being warned that they were low. Eventually done at the third service. Long life services too, so about 17k apart.
Rest assured it's not just Audi dealers. My wife's Jazz was serviced at a Honda franchise in March 2015 and she received a phone call from the service manager explaining that her front pads needed to be replaced. She said not to proceed and that she'd get me to look at them.

Nine months later they're still fine, they'll easily make the next service.

Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

255 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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FezzaDude said:
KungFuPanda said:
Ask them if the car will pass theMOT with the current brake setup.
The car passed its MOT no problem...and they did not even mention any advisories at all regarding brakes!!
Fishy.....
Not at all. The MOT only tests the efficiency of the brakes, at the time of the test. It doesn't test the life left in them at all.

I did discs and pads all round on my 911 a few years ago. The dealer quoted £1200 and I bought the OE parts from ECP for just over £300. The Indys buy their parts from ECP and get a trade discount, so imagine the mark up the dealers are making.

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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Raven Flyer said:
Not at all. The MOT only tests the efficiency of the brakes, at the time of the test. It doesn't test the life left in them at all.
Disc condition and pad thickness are inspected at MOT time; if your tester isn't happy with either you'll get an advisory.

I'd be inclined to order your preferred brand of bits yourself (you could even buy genuine from TPS likely at a small discount) and have a decent, local independent garage fit them for you. Could easily save you £200.

Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

255 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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Dr G said:
Raven Flyer said:
Not at all. The MOT only tests the efficiency of the brakes, at the time of the test. It doesn't test the life left in them at all.
Disc condition and pad thickness are inspected at MOT time; if your tester isn't happy with either you'll get an advisory.

I'd be inclined to order your preferred brand of bits yourself (you could even buy genuine from TPS likely at a small discount) and have a decent, local independent garage fit them for you. Could easily save you £200.
Agreed. What I meant to say is that low pads and disc corrosion aren't a failure, if it meets the kN of stopping power required. These targets are pretty easy to meet.

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

200 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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I have a 4.2l S5. I am getting a quote tomorrow morning on the same job. I will let you know what I get quoted.