Different alcohol hits
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Help me out here, am I right in saying that different drinks hit the spot in different ways?
I've recently been quaffing home made cider and it seems to take effect with a much better - read warmer, more satisfying way than say, a glass of wine does.
Alcohol, should be alcohol, but it seems not or maybe it's down to the chemical additives? The Cider has no additives being home made, or is it due to other ingredients perhaps?
I've recently been quaffing home made cider and it seems to take effect with a much better - read warmer, more satisfying way than say, a glass of wine does.
Alcohol, should be alcohol, but it seems not or maybe it's down to the chemical additives? The Cider has no additives being home made, or is it due to other ingredients perhaps?
Ive also found that to be the case, im not a big drinker at all but cannot handle spirits i realy do not like how they make me feel. but when it comes to a nice pint of bitter or 2 its a very relaxing mellow feeling. i hate being drunk though it doesn't agree with me so know my limits. I do like a bottle or two of Yorkshire terrier bitter though. I did try some of Tim Smiths Climax moonshine this Christmas, was a present sent from a good mate in the states. have to say if there was a spirit i could like, the warm fuzzy feeling it gives is nice, the one spirit i have found i do like shame we cant get it here in the u.k .
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/10/1...
I like drink tequila as is an upper unlike all other alcohol that's a depressant
I like drink tequila as is an upper unlike all other alcohol that's a depressant
Foliage said:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/10/1...
I like drink tequila as is an upper unlike all other alcohol that's a depressant
Is there a source for that info on the Tequila? I did just find the drink itself on Wiki and spent a few interesting moments reading all about it, it seems to come from some strange Pineapple type plants.I like drink tequila as is an upper unlike all other alcohol that's a depressant
I'm reading what you've posted and finding it hard to believe, but then remembering what I've started the thread with
It's just difficult to understand, as alcohol has never had a depressing effect on me.
It depends how much you drink and your tolerance, different drinks have different effects they all have different compositions, but the over riding factors is the ethanol which is a depressant, but when you drink alcohol you are also releasing dopamines, its a balancing act and really does depend on what your drinking and your tolerance.
Endorphines could be getting released aswell.
I dont think any scientific studies have ever actually been able to come to a conclusion with regards to how alcohol gets dopamine and endorphines to do stuff and also depress us at the same time & why different drinks do different things.
tequila is still a depressent but is also an upper (im saying stimulant because it isnt) more than all other drinks.
Tequila makes me happy,
I think the best answer is nobody knows, our brains chemical reward/survival system is complex and hard to study. I think its possible that dopamine and endorphines are being released as some kinda defence system against the effect the ethanol (poison) is having on our ability to function, in a similar way endorphines are released during and after exercise and when we eat some foods that our bodies may consider to be suspect (peanuts, chilli's etc)
Endorphines could be getting released aswell.
I dont think any scientific studies have ever actually been able to come to a conclusion with regards to how alcohol gets dopamine and endorphines to do stuff and also depress us at the same time & why different drinks do different things.
tequila is still a depressent but is also an upper (im saying stimulant because it isnt) more than all other drinks.
Tequila makes me happy,
I think the best answer is nobody knows, our brains chemical reward/survival system is complex and hard to study. I think its possible that dopamine and endorphines are being released as some kinda defence system against the effect the ethanol (poison) is having on our ability to function, in a similar way endorphines are released during and after exercise and when we eat some foods that our bodies may consider to be suspect (peanuts, chilli's etc)
CAPP0 said:
With the way I feel today after what I'd consider significant but not excessive consumption last night, I really do have to question whether it's worth it. Much as I like a nice pint or a decent glass of red, the trade-off increasingly seems not to be worth it.
I had beer, champagne, jack daniels and absinthe lastnight, i feel ok or i might still be pissed..CAPP0 said:
With the way I feel today after what I'd consider significant but not excessive consumption last night, I really do have to question whether it's worth it. Much as I like a nice pint or a decent glass of red, the trade-off increasingly seems not to be worth it.
Haven't noticed you around for a while, how's it going? I think some of the bad feeling the next day is due to what alcohol does to your sleep as well as the rest of it. If i've had a fair amount up to bedtime at around 12 i'll be wide awake at 4 which I think is due to something like sugar levels adjusting IIRC.
Foliage said:
It depends how much you drink and your tolerance, different drinks have different effects they all have different compositions, but the over riding factors is the ethanol which is a depressant, but when you drink alcohol you are also releasing dopamines, its a balancing act and really does depend on what your drinking and your tolerance.
Endorphins could be getting released as well.
I don't think any scientific studies have ever actually been able to come to a conclusion with regards to how alcohol gets dopamine and endorphins to do stuff and also depress us at the same time & why different drinks do different things.
tequila is still a depressant but is also an upper (im saying stimulant because it isnt) more than all other drinks.
Tequila makes me happy,
I think the best answer is nobody knows, our brains chemical reward/survival system is complex and hard to study. I think its possible that dopamine and endorphins are being released as some kinda defence system against the effect the ethanol (poison) is having on our ability to function, in a similar way endorphins are released during and after exercise and when we eat some foods that our bodies may consider to be suspect (peanuts, chilli etc)
Only one E in endorphin Endorphins could be getting released as well.
I don't think any scientific studies have ever actually been able to come to a conclusion with regards to how alcohol gets dopamine and endorphins to do stuff and also depress us at the same time & why different drinks do different things.
tequila is still a depressant but is also an upper (im saying stimulant because it isnt) more than all other drinks.
Tequila makes me happy,
I think the best answer is nobody knows, our brains chemical reward/survival system is complex and hard to study. I think its possible that dopamine and endorphins are being released as some kinda defence system against the effect the ethanol (poison) is having on our ability to function, in a similar way endorphins are released during and after exercise and when we eat some foods that our bodies may consider to be suspect (peanuts, chilli etc)
I have to agree, there seems to be lots we don't know about it, maybe someone on a higher level does. A lot of people get a hit from a curry (chilli), but I can't say I do.
The home made cider I mentioned hits like ecstasy with a sudden warm happy glow, yet you can drink Bacardi & Vodka without feeling as inebriated as you actually are. Red wine on the other hand seems to increase the heart rate, so much so I can feel it thumping in my head. It gives some people headaches it's so intense, but not me.
227bhp said:
CAPP0 said:
With the way I feel today after what I'd consider significant but not excessive consumption last night, I really do have to question whether it's worth it. Much as I like a nice pint or a decent glass of red, the trade-off increasingly seems not to be worth it.
Haven't noticed you around for a while, how's it going? I think some of the bad feeling the next day is due to what alcohol does to your sleep as well as the rest of it. If i've had a fair amount up to bedtime at around 12 i'll be wide awake at 4 which I think is due to something like sugar levels adjusting IIRC.
- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
CAPP0 said:
Well, I'm still feeling somewhat less-than. Thinking back, over about 7 hours on Thursday eve I consumed:
- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
The barman coughed on one of your glasses and you have a virus.- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
There's no difference in the psychoactive ingredients of most drinks (absinthe aside). They all have the same effect on your brain.
When girls say "I'm terrible on vodka, I go crazy on vodka" and other such b
ks what they mean is that vodka is what they drink when they have already decided to go crazy.
The drink doesn't define what sort of night you have. More like the sort of night you want defines what drinks you choose. Then you get the kind of drunk you were going to get, regardless.
Hangovers vary across drinks because of the different non psycho-active ingredients in the drinks, which are no good for you, but aren't mood-changing.
When girls say "I'm terrible on vodka, I go crazy on vodka" and other such b
ks what they mean is that vodka is what they drink when they have already decided to go crazy.The drink doesn't define what sort of night you have. More like the sort of night you want defines what drinks you choose. Then you get the kind of drunk you were going to get, regardless.
Hangovers vary across drinks because of the different non psycho-active ingredients in the drinks, which are no good for you, but aren't mood-changing.
It would make sense for the additives to cause more of a behaviour change than the alcohol - the alcohol in vodka is the same alcohol in gin, usually just a simple grain spirit. But if you drink the vodka with coke or red bull and the gin with tonic water, then you're bound to get a different effect, purely because of the difference in caffeine and sugar consumed, especially over half a dozen to a dozen drinks.
Strong correlations between the tannins and other non-alcoholic chemicals in drink that add to the hangover - so drinks like heavy red wine, port, heavily hopped beers generally cause a worse hangover than white wine, gin, vodka if you measure them unit for unit of alcohol against each other.
Strong correlations between the tannins and other non-alcoholic chemicals in drink that add to the hangover - so drinks like heavy red wine, port, heavily hopped beers generally cause a worse hangover than white wine, gin, vodka if you measure them unit for unit of alcohol against each other.
13m said:
CAPP0 said:
Well, I'm still feeling somewhat less-than. Thinking back, over about 7 hours on Thursday eve I consumed:
- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
The barman coughed on one of your glasses and you have a virus.- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
CAPP0 said:
13m said:
CAPP0 said:
Well, I'm still feeling somewhat less-than. Thinking back, over about 7 hours on Thursday eve I consumed:
- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
The barman coughed on one of your glasses and you have a virus.- half a bottle of champagne
- 5 pints of bitter @ 4.5%
- 2 pub-served singles of Laphroaig
Which, I'll happily admit, is more than enough, and does represent mixing the drinks, but for a 6'4" 15-stoner is not, I would suggest, enough to generate a 48-hour hangover - which I've never had before. My head's been fine since about midday yesterday but I still feel very nauseous and have still got the screaming ab-dabs. I've eaten, but not particularly enjoyed anything. Mildly concerned at this stage, I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
This might not help in relation to the original post, but here goes....
In August 2014 my wife and I bought our latest home, which has a large and unruly garden, and about eight apple trees. We've used a lot of the apples, but there were more than we could cope with by making apple crumbles and apple juice etc., so we tried making cider.
This appeared to go OK, but now that we've tried drinking it we're not sure what we've achieved. To be honest I can't say I care for the taste of it - it seems a bit harsh and vinegary - but it does seem to pack a punch, so I'm wondering what we've done wrong. We've stored the stuff in bottles since we made it about six weeks ago, and we've only just got round to trying drinking it.
One thing I can say is that it seems to be quite potent. Half a litre of it and I don't know where I'm working - mind you, there's nothing new there!
Best wishes all,
A somewhat unsteady Dave.
In August 2014 my wife and I bought our latest home, which has a large and unruly garden, and about eight apple trees. We've used a lot of the apples, but there were more than we could cope with by making apple crumbles and apple juice etc., so we tried making cider.
This appeared to go OK, but now that we've tried drinking it we're not sure what we've achieved. To be honest I can't say I care for the taste of it - it seems a bit harsh and vinegary - but it does seem to pack a punch, so I'm wondering what we've done wrong. We've stored the stuff in bottles since we made it about six weeks ago, and we've only just got round to trying drinking it.
One thing I can say is that it seems to be quite potent. Half a litre of it and I don't know where I'm working - mind you, there's nothing new there!
Best wishes all,
A somewhat unsteady Dave.
p1esk said:
This might not help in relation to the original post, but here goes....
In August 2014 my wife and I bought our latest home, which has a large and unruly garden, and about eight apple trees. We've used a lot of the apples, but there were more than we could cope with by making apple crumbles and apple juice etc., so we tried making cider.
This appeared to go OK, but now that we've tried drinking it we're not sure what we've achieved. To be honest I can't say I care for the taste of it - it seems a bit harsh and vinegary - but it does seem to pack a punch, so I'm wondering what we've done wrong. We've stored the stuff in bottles since we made it about six weeks ago, and we've only just got round to trying drinking it.
One thing I can say is that it seems to be quite potent. Half a litre of it and I don't know where I'm working - mind you, there's nothing new there!
Best wishes all,
A somewhat unsteady Dave.
When did you bottle it?In August 2014 my wife and I bought our latest home, which has a large and unruly garden, and about eight apple trees. We've used a lot of the apples, but there were more than we could cope with by making apple crumbles and apple juice etc., so we tried making cider.
This appeared to go OK, but now that we've tried drinking it we're not sure what we've achieved. To be honest I can't say I care for the taste of it - it seems a bit harsh and vinegary - but it does seem to pack a punch, so I'm wondering what we've done wrong. We've stored the stuff in bottles since we made it about six weeks ago, and we've only just got round to trying drinking it.
One thing I can say is that it seems to be quite potent. Half a litre of it and I don't know where I'm working - mind you, there's nothing new there!
Best wishes all,
A somewhat unsteady Dave.
I made my first batch about 8 weeks ago. I tasted some when I bottled it, and it lacked "body". It has developed quite nicely, and is now quite drinkable, and very fruity.
don4l said:
p1esk said:
This might not help in relation to the original post, but here goes....
In August 2014 my wife and I bought our latest home, which has a large and unruly garden, and about eight apple trees. We've used a lot of the apples, but there were more than we could cope with by making apple crumbles and apple juice etc., so we tried making cider.
This appeared to go OK, but now that we've tried drinking it we're not sure what we've achieved. To be honest I can't say I care for the taste of it - it seems a bit harsh and vinegary - but it does seem to pack a punch, so I'm wondering what we've done wrong. We've stored the stuff in bottles since we made it about six weeks ago, and we've only just got round to trying drinking it.
One thing I can say is that it seems to be quite potent. Half a litre of it and I don't know where I'm working - mind you, there's nothing new there!
Best wishes all,
A somewhat unsteady Dave.
When did you bottle it?In August 2014 my wife and I bought our latest home, which has a large and unruly garden, and about eight apple trees. We've used a lot of the apples, but there were more than we could cope with by making apple crumbles and apple juice etc., so we tried making cider.
This appeared to go OK, but now that we've tried drinking it we're not sure what we've achieved. To be honest I can't say I care for the taste of it - it seems a bit harsh and vinegary - but it does seem to pack a punch, so I'm wondering what we've done wrong. We've stored the stuff in bottles since we made it about six weeks ago, and we've only just got round to trying drinking it.
One thing I can say is that it seems to be quite potent. Half a litre of it and I don't know where I'm working - mind you, there's nothing new there!
Best wishes all,
A somewhat unsteady Dave.
I made my first batch about 8 weeks ago. I tasted some when I bottled it, and it lacked "body". It has developed quite nicely, and is now quite drinkable, and very fruity.
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