Tyre Choices
Tyre Choices
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JimTC

Original Poster:

272 posts

246 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Re tyre choice (apologies, I know this is a frequent topic).

I currently have Toyo Proxes T1R fitted as follows:

Front
225/45ZR16 93W

Rear
245/45ZR16 94W

(the 15" wheels on the front were changed to 16" a while back).

The tyres still have plenty of tread but they're getting old, hence considering changing the whole set.

Stick with Toyo or are there better options these days?

Year 2000 Chim 500 BTW.

Many thanks,
Jim

Edited by JimTC on Monday 4th January 18:28

KateV8

448 posts

181 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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With sincere apologies to the OP for the thread hijack (but this should be relevant to his question) has anybody had Rainsport 3's on long enough to give an assessment in wet and dry conditions once they've bedded in? Fast road and touring use, not track days.

Danattheopticians

375 posts

131 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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I've just bought a chim with Dunlops on it and they aren't great. Can't say if toyo are best but can say avoid Dunlops. Will be trying toyo when they need changing personally.

magpies

5,203 posts

211 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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I've just put T1Rs on my S - just scrubbed them in - 100 or so miles but now off the road for a fuelling issue frown

I have Rainsport 3s on my BMW road car and on the wifes Freelander - they do hang on well

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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KateV8 said:
With sincere apologies to the OP for the thread hijack (but this should be relevant to his question) has anybody had Rainsport 3's on long enough to give an assessment in wet and dry conditions once they've bedded in? Fast road and touring use, not track days.
I have them ,aaprt from the very thin walls they grip like hell ..

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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I have Uniroyal Rainsport 3s on my Saab, awesome tyres, particularly in the current wet weather.
They handle rivers and huge puddles at 70 mph....but of course the Saab is much heavier then the TVR
Grip like crazy in the wet ("A" rated for wet grip), and are nice in the dry too.
So far covered 17,500 miles on them since May. Not even half worn.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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If I can push my finger into the soft wall when deflated this means they could go rather wobbly after given some stick..

Oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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I had them on mine all last winter and really rate them.
Bedding in they were crap but when they are they are fantastic and confidence inspiring.

KateV8

448 posts

181 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Thanks for all the replies and once again apologies to the OP. Think I'll be getting some Rainsports before our West Highland tour in May, last year's was driven in monsoon conditions 😕

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Some highly rated views there scratchchin ,,, Rainsports,,, I'm getting temped smile

The car being light is where the side wall flex must help our cars a tad,, as we hardly get any really hot days weather at anytime of year then when are you going to really overload them on the roads,,, seems like a good choice thumbup
If Anthony's done 17,000 miles then there hard wearing too by the sounds of it,,
I'd simply like the softest compound with a proper winter tread pattern through them,,, which ones are they smile

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

158 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Had my RS 3's on for 6k road use only and very pleased with them.

Roundabouts in the rain and the times I've been out in rain in general feels very planted.

Running with 24psi on the rear.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Sizes are limited if you have 16" front wheels ,I ended up with 205/50/16 front and 235/45/17 rear .


phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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With Rainsport 2s fitted to my old VRS I could go round my favourite roundabouts in the rain quicker then on the old Falkens in the dry, that's no exaggeration!

N7GTX

8,302 posts

172 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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Rainsport 3s on mine too. They tend to break away and lose grip on dry roads in second at 3,000 rpm smokinlaugh

Richard 858

1,882 posts

164 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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I am also contemplating what to change to from my existing T1R's as I need more rear end grip but would really like to keep my original 16" Imolas for road use as I'd like to keep the "standard" look. However one thing keeps cropping up in my considerations that does not seem to have been mentioned in this thread so far.
With the odd exception (QBee for one) the average mileage covered by our beloved cars would seem to be around 3,000 miles per year, mostly in drier weather. If that is coupled with the general consensus that it is not good practice to run tyres for more than 4 years or so to avoid perishing and the tyres losing their flexibility, then it would seem that to combine performance and getting the most out of tyre wear (i.e. not having 4-5 year old tyres with 50% tread left on them) we perhaps should be looking at softer compounds that will give a life of 12-15,000 miles in total.
All this is only my humble opinion of course but worth thinking about. scratchchin

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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Richard 858 said:
I am also contemplating what to change to from my existing T1R's as I need more rear end grip but would really like to keep my original 16" Imolas for road use as I'd like to keep the "standard" look. However one thing keeps cropping up in my considerations that does not seem to have been mentioned in this thread so far.
With the odd exception (QBee for one) the average mileage covered by our beloved cars would seem to be around 3,000 miles per year, mostly in drier weather. If that is coupled with the general consensus that it is not good practice to run tyres for more than 4 years or so to avoid perishing and the tyres losing their flexibility, then it would seem that to combine performance and getting the most out of tyre wear (i.e. not having 4-5 year old tyres with 50% tread left on them) we perhaps should be looking at softer compounds that will give a life of 12-15,000 miles in total.
All this is only my humble opinion of course but worth thinking about. scratchchin
Can you get R1Rs in your size, they are really good and even with my torque they struggle to break traction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOu_zZfSU8g

gmw9666

2,739 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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I recently put Bridgestone Potenza RE002 on my 430 chim and she has been used in the soaking wet as well as damp as well as bone dry

Thus far they have proved to be very good all round and very well priced (£290 fitted for a standard 15/16 set)

Smokey Boyer

509 posts

160 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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I also have the Bridgestone RE002 on mine and it has been very good in both the wet and dry on the roads. I even did a sprint day on them, also and took them up to 135mph in standing water at the RAF Wittering family day in the summer.

Not sure I would want to use them for a full on track day, but they were ok for what I was doing.

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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Jeremy, I did your Leicestershire run last Tuesday on my knackered, almost to the legal limit, heavily track-dayed Federal 595 RSRs and had almost no loss of grip on what were dry roads, but with significant wet stretches. We certainly weren't hanging about.

I wasn't giving it absolutely full beans, but I would say that a new set of Federal 595 RSRs (be careful, you need the RSR, not the SS) is a brilliant compromise as they have Toyo R888 levels of grip in the dry, can handle a track day as well as the R888s, but also are pretty competent in the wet. And not too expensive - I will go and look up if they are available in the sizes you require, as I use 17s.

Yokohama AD08R also have a good level of wet grip, as well as being excellent in the dry.


ETA - scrub that idea - they don't come in wide enough sizes

Edited by QBee on Tuesday 5th January 09:53

BillC99

348 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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Another yes for Rainsport 3's. Only got them on the rear at the moment as I can't decide what size to put on the front (16 inch).
She doesn't feel like she is trying to kill me in the wet now!

What pressures are people using? I was advised to run 30psi on the rear because of the softer sidewall.