New drinking limits !
Discussion
Dail Mash reminded me I read this and decided to ignore it,
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/daily-al...
The actual article is,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35255384
14 units a week, in total for men and women ffs, you can have a whole pint of standard strength lager, but not every day and not binge drink all seven once a week or have more than two in a sitting.
Lemmy got to seventy having caned it, day in day out for decades, I have a few beers a couple of days a week and apparently it will kill me, best to have none, cant have any sugar as that is evil as well.
Are they intent on having a generation of spry, Benecol addled, teetotal, healthy eating 120 year olds, or possibly a super healthy population who have alzheimer's ?
I reckon its really a case of not f
king yourself up so badly you need the NHS all the time from 30 whilst still doing enough damage to expire, leaving a fairly knackered body, that you got the best out of and enjoyed, try not to properly break any one function (i.e. Liver), they will wear out anyway.
fk it, thats made me want a drink.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/daily-al...
The actual article is,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35255384
14 units a week, in total for men and women ffs, you can have a whole pint of standard strength lager, but not every day and not binge drink all seven once a week or have more than two in a sitting.
Lemmy got to seventy having caned it, day in day out for decades, I have a few beers a couple of days a week and apparently it will kill me, best to have none, cant have any sugar as that is evil as well.
Are they intent on having a generation of spry, Benecol addled, teetotal, healthy eating 120 year olds, or possibly a super healthy population who have alzheimer's ?
I reckon its really a case of not f
king yourself up so badly you need the NHS all the time from 30 whilst still doing enough damage to expire, leaving a fairly knackered body, that you got the best out of and enjoyed, try not to properly break any one function (i.e. Liver), they will wear out anyway.f
k it, thats made me want a drink.My wife was nagging me about this when it came on the news last night, her annual attempt to make me drink less during the most miserable month of the year.
It set me thinking this morning, this article shows how our limits compare globally
Interestingly, Spain says 35 units/week is a safe maximum for men.
Life expectancy UK (2012 data): 81.50yrs
Life expectancy Spain (2012 data): 82.38yrs
Mine's a large Rioja!
It set me thinking this morning, this article shows how our limits compare globally
Interestingly, Spain says 35 units/week is a safe maximum for men.
Life expectancy UK (2012 data): 81.50yrs
Life expectancy Spain (2012 data): 82.38yrs
Mine's a large Rioja!
I'm not a big drinking by any measure, certainly feel better the less I drink and find not drinking helps me sleep and run better.
It's of little doubt that we should only drink water, or beer would rain down from the sky (there's a thought). The trouble with these various health and eating stories is that one day eating x amount of y is ok, then you have to stop eating y at all and only eat z.
Going out for a few adult beverages is a very pleasant thing to do, so maybe the benefits of that are better for you than any health risks with the actual alcohol.
It's of little doubt that we should only drink water, or beer would rain down from the sky (there's a thought). The trouble with these various health and eating stories is that one day eating x amount of y is ok, then you have to stop eating y at all and only eat z.
Going out for a few adult beverages is a very pleasant thing to do, so maybe the benefits of that are better for you than any health risks with the actual alcohol.
Last nights intake
2 strong lagers
1 bottle Red
Not worried about the recommendations, will take the risk.
In good company:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35261968
2 strong lagers
1 bottle Red
Not worried about the recommendations, will take the risk.
In good company:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35261968
Edited by anothernameitist on Friday 8th January 13:48
I'll go with this study thanks.
Research found people who drank heavily had a lower mortality rate than those who did not drink any alcohol at all
Research found people who drank heavily had a lower mortality rate than those who did not drink any alcohol at all
Edited by CountZero23 on Friday 8th January 14:42
GC8 said:
I don't drink, so youre welcome to my allowance of units.
Not sure it works like that !Not drinking is great, but drinking is better, I didn't for a couple of months last year, didn't really miss it, just got used to not having it but went on holiday and welcomed booze back into my life
The way I see it is "they say" if you really like a drink or a smoke above recommended limits, then don't do it! Stop immediately and lead a miserable life not doing the things you enjoy and maybe live a little bit longer but more miserably.
But when it all ends, how can you tell anyway unless you went to complete extremes and developed a known related disease like cirrhosis, and then you would probably need to be way beyond guidlines.
I have had mates die young riddled with various cancers that have never touched a cigarette and drank rarely. But to all intents and purposes, their primary cause would look just the same as mine should I get cancer - the supporting evidence of shagged airways and arteries would only identify me as a smoker IMO.
Yes I know, smoking and drinking increases the likelihood, but hey ho, personal choice / risk and all that.
But when it all ends, how can you tell anyway unless you went to complete extremes and developed a known related disease like cirrhosis, and then you would probably need to be way beyond guidlines.
I have had mates die young riddled with various cancers that have never touched a cigarette and drank rarely. But to all intents and purposes, their primary cause would look just the same as mine should I get cancer - the supporting evidence of shagged airways and arteries would only identify me as a smoker IMO.
Yes I know, smoking and drinking increases the likelihood, but hey ho, personal choice / risk and all that.
I'm sure the elderly will agree, but having had a lot more fun in my youth I've potentially sacrificed some years off the end of my life.
At the age of 42 I am getting very short sighted, deaf, with a very bad back, and what would appear to be the first signs of arthritis.
So if the booze wants to reduce my quality of life and longevity, it may well have to join the queue.
At the age of 42 I am getting very short sighted, deaf, with a very bad back, and what would appear to be the first signs of arthritis.
So if the booze wants to reduce my quality of life and longevity, it may well have to join the queue.
The difficulty CMO has is saying a limit suits everybody - which it doesn't.
I know I need to cut back as I tend to open a bottle of red and well, finish it thursday to saturday evenings.
that's about 36 units plus the odd scotch for good measure. I don't need the govt to tell me that's probbaly too much at 42 and 15 stone. I've suffered chronic gout recently which has been hell - don't try it kids, its honestly horrendous.
I do have a good diet and drink loads of water, so if I cut back on drink I would drop a bit of weight and no doubt feel better.
however, this is the kicker. I like to drink. my wife is tee total so I have no-one to share a bottle with, she's fine with it despite her concerns over the amounts but I don't smoke or take recreational drugs.
I like a friday night relax with a good red and I can make my own informed choice about what I put into my body. I don't disagree with CMO's stance it is a public health issue, so thanks for the information but i'm make my own mind up.
when it gets parochial is when I switch off...
I know I need to cut back as I tend to open a bottle of red and well, finish it thursday to saturday evenings.
that's about 36 units plus the odd scotch for good measure. I don't need the govt to tell me that's probbaly too much at 42 and 15 stone. I've suffered chronic gout recently which has been hell - don't try it kids, its honestly horrendous.
I do have a good diet and drink loads of water, so if I cut back on drink I would drop a bit of weight and no doubt feel better.
however, this is the kicker. I like to drink. my wife is tee total so I have no-one to share a bottle with, she's fine with it despite her concerns over the amounts but I don't smoke or take recreational drugs.
I like a friday night relax with a good red and I can make my own informed choice about what I put into my body. I don't disagree with CMO's stance it is a public health issue, so thanks for the information but i'm make my own mind up.
when it gets parochial is when I switch off...
I think the problem with booze is people enjoy it, then make the mistake of thinking that it will enhance their life if they drink more and they cant understand why it doesn't work like that, its like anything that isnt meant to be there, if it makes you feel better, at some point here will be an equal and opposite effect, same with drugs.
It isnt magic, it just pushes some buttons internally, sometimes less is indeed more, really muich more than two or three pints is labouring a point,that first pint is fantastic, the second goes down well, then you are labouring a point and storing up evils for the following day and beyond.
I think the total ban on any other substances is probably a good thing but I am sure I could enjoy the odd spliff occasionally and not end up on Smack, I could drop an E or take LSD periodically and still manage to function, it goes back to when things become a habit, perhaps they should test for an addictive personality instead ?
It isnt magic, it just pushes some buttons internally, sometimes less is indeed more, really muich more than two or three pints is labouring a point,that first pint is fantastic, the second goes down well, then you are labouring a point and storing up evils for the following day and beyond.
I think the total ban on any other substances is probably a good thing but I am sure I could enjoy the odd spliff occasionally and not end up on Smack, I could drop an E or take LSD periodically and still manage to function, it goes back to when things become a habit, perhaps they should test for an addictive personality instead ?
I've been waiting for this kind of 'campaign' to begin … did anyone really think that once the hollier-than-thou brigade had hammered smokers as far as they realistically could, that they'd shut up and let everyone else get on with their lives?
Not a chance in hell.
We can expect to see more pressure being heaped on drinkers over the next few years. For example: if, 40 years ago, you proposed a smoking ban in pubs, you'd have been laughed at. I'm willing to bet that by 2045 pubs will no longer be able to serve alcohol as freely as they do today (imagine a strict one unit per customer basis or similar). You may scoff, but I have a horrible feeling that I'm right. I can only hope to be proved wrong!
Fatties will also be in the firing line. Some form of tax on sugary or fatty foods is inevitable IMO, despite the food industry being a powerful body (the Tobacco companies used to wield a lot of power and look what 'they' managed to do to smokers).
Personally, I tend to ignore the puritanical types who tell me what to drink, smoke and eat. Their lives may be longer than mine, but they will be dull, joyless and grey.
fk 'em.
Not a chance in hell.
We can expect to see more pressure being heaped on drinkers over the next few years. For example: if, 40 years ago, you proposed a smoking ban in pubs, you'd have been laughed at. I'm willing to bet that by 2045 pubs will no longer be able to serve alcohol as freely as they do today (imagine a strict one unit per customer basis or similar). You may scoff, but I have a horrible feeling that I'm right. I can only hope to be proved wrong!
Fatties will also be in the firing line. Some form of tax on sugary or fatty foods is inevitable IMO, despite the food industry being a powerful body (the Tobacco companies used to wield a lot of power and look what 'they' managed to do to smokers).
Personally, I tend to ignore the puritanical types who tell me what to drink, smoke and eat. Their lives may be longer than mine, but they will be dull, joyless and grey.
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