Car negotiation
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Balmoral Green

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42,561 posts

277 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Imagine going to buy a car that you like, and it lists at £31,000.

You would be feeling pretty pleased with yourself if you managed to negotiate a deal at £17,000 for it wouldnt you?

But imagine if after ordering, a few days later you found an even better one for £14,000. Then on making enquiries you found out that the 1st car you ordered was in fact the very most basic specification available and massively overpriced even at the discounted figure. But the cheaper car you have now found is in fact the very top specification available and offered at a very fair price and having made further enquiries you find that no-one locally can match the specification at the price.

So imagine cancelling the order for the 1st car, only to be offered it at £9,000 as an incentive to continue with the order.

So you've gone from £31,000 down to £9,000 and all it ever was in the 1st place was a £9,000 car, perhaps not even that.

Would you want to continue with the order on the 1st car, or buy the 2nd car?

btw, it's not actually a car, but the above is a fair anology of a scenario I have just encountered

carsarecool

4,456 posts

268 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Double glazing by any chance?

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

269 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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The 2nd car because you're getting a better car for less money than you were originally going to spend.

>> Edited by thebluemonkey on Wednesday 16th February 19:56

Balmoral Green

Original Poster:

42,561 posts

277 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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carsarecool said:
Double glazing by any chance?

Give that man a banana

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Go to the first bloke and say call it £4k and you've got a deal

Haggle to about £7k

Get the other bloke to match it

BTW I've just saved you £2k where's my bloody cut

I bloody hate dealing with these people, you want to just pay a bit more and not lower yourself to that level but £20k for 5 minutes work is not to be sniffed at

>> did you see my post on you other thread. I assume it's a no go.
BTW does that mean the new motor budget has just rocketed

>> Edited by Incorrigible on Wednesday 16th February 20:05

pombstard

7,874 posts

271 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Did you get the "Order today, and I'll knock XX pounds off the price" spiel?? Thieving gits, all of them.

The other ones to watch are the driveway paving thieves - had one a few years ago, fairly large driveway, they wanted GBP16500 to lay, but if we ordered there and then, they'd do it for GBP9000. Told them we'd think about it, and that if they can do it for 9K on that day, they could bl**dy well do it for 9K later on.

They must make an absolute killing on some sales to justify starting with such a high price, when most people I now could negotiate them to about a fifth very easily.

Balmoral Green

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42,561 posts

277 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I am in fact a double glazing/conservatory salesman, I signed a deal this evening, and my post was my customers story. I hear this sort of thing time and time again from customers. WTF is wrong with this industry. So much of it stinks.

Still, I read in the latest trade magazine that the industry is down 28% year to date. I am up 33%

srebbe64

13,021 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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So when you're selling double-glazing, do you turn up at the pospect's house in your Bentley or your Skoda?

judas

6,236 posts

288 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Chap I used to work with played two companies off against each other for double glazing his house. The inital quote of £14.5k eventually came down to £2.5k!

>> Edited by judas on Wednesday 16th February 20:47

wannanicecar

118 posts

262 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Best way to save on double glazing is to DIY - If you don't mind the hassle of ordering the windows yourself and can spare the time - It's very easy to do and you KNOW that the windows have been fitted / sealed etc correctly.

Personally, I wouldn't let the vast majority of DG companies into the house, knowing just how short a time the fitters are allowed on any site and hearing many a horror story from people in the trade.

Make sure you get recommendations from other customers if you don't want to DIY.

ysnnim

235 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Sounds familiar - take first quote, reduce by up to 80% and that is roughly the price you can expect to pay if you have half a brain. If you have the full brain, I am not sure what happens, as at the time I agreed to the deal I was plissed.

Ho hum!

D

cotty

42,226 posts

313 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Anyone got any double glazing company recommendations, I want to get my house double glazed, 4 windows & patio doors.

Anglian did my front door a couple of years back, I thought they were expensive but as they were the only company that did the door I wanted I had to go with them.

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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I heard that these guys are quite good

DJFish

6,017 posts

292 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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If this thread is too expensive, I can do you a favour and give my boss a ring, and he'll say that as a special favour to a special customer we can do a 'this weekend only''excess capital, profit share scheme' special price if you buy today and put a board outside your house etc....

Shisters, the lot of 'em

FourWheelDrift

92,295 posts

313 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

carsarecool said:
Double glazing by any chance?


Give that man a banana


I thought you were buying a Rover.

cotty

42,226 posts

313 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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DJFish said:
If this thread is too expensive, I can do you a favour and give my boss a ring, and he'll say that as a special favour to a special customer we can do a 'this weekend only''excess capital, profit share scheme' special price if you buy today and put a board outside your house etc....

Shisters, the lot of 'em


Thats what im hoping to avoid

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Just bought 10 hardwood frame windows for £7500....(well actually the other half bought them!!)

welsh blackbird

692 posts

273 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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welsh blackbird said:
I had my whole house double glazed, plus front and back door, for £500 plus a second hand Compaq laptop!


Now thats the type of deal I like...

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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welsh blackbird said:
I had my whole house double glazed, plus front and back door, for £500 plus a second hand Compaq laptop!


Sounds a bit expensive if the laptop was working ...