Q? for teachers

[21TonyK]

As a UQ I have reached the dizzying heights of the scale and although I don't need to for my role I would like to qualify specialising in FE SEN which is what I do now.

Question is I'm only likely to go as far as DTLLS level 5. Does this get me onto the QT scale or do I have to go for the full PGCE which is not an attractive option due to time etc.

Cheers

[jkh112]

What is a uq and what is dtlls? My wife has been a secondary teacher for 20 years and does not recognise these abbreviations. Might be an idea to post on tes in the further education section in community?

[21TonyK]

jkh112 said:

What is a uq and what is dtlls?

uq is the payscale, unqualified teacher. dtlls = Diploma in Teaching Life Long Sector, goes PTLLS, CTLLS, DTLLS then PGCE although the whole lot are now known by NVQ Level

Essentially the question is whether a Level 5 is good enough to swap to the QT payscale. I've hit the top of the UQ scale and I would like to stay in the same role for several years but not if it is without professional and financial progression.

[Vincefox]

If you're in post lecturing already this should be covered by your employer.

[21TonyK]

And I'm sure I would get an answer on Monday. Just thought it might be a simple yes or no.

[Hoink]

21TonyK said:

As a UQ I have reached the dizzying heights of the scale and although I don't need to for my role I would like to qualify specialising in FE SEN which is what I do now.

Question is I'm only likely to go as far as DTLLS level 5. Does this get me onto the QT scale or do I have to go for the full PGCE which is not an attractive option due to time etc.

Cheers

My lass reckons you need to have qualified teacher status to get on that scale but could be wrong as she only works with QTs (she is in primary education).

ETA; no. Full PGCE.

Edited by Hoink on Saturday 9th January 18:33

[Vincefox]

Aye, full qual if you want to reach top of scale.

[rog007]

To get QTS you need PGCE or SCIT.

To become an FE teacher you have additional options, and indeed incentives, if you go on to teach SEN.

See here for further details:

https://getintoteaching.education.gov.uk/explore-m...

Good luck!

[21TonyK]

rog007 said:

To get QTS you need PGCE or SCIT.

To become an FE teacher you have additional options, and indeed incentives, if you go on to teach SEN.

See here for further details:

https://getintoteaching.education.gov.uk/explore-m...

Good luck!

Thanks for that. Had a look earlier but half the stuff on their website doesn't link so I'll have a good search around and chat with the boss next week.

The course I have designed runs 5 days a week but I only deliver two half days myself. The rest is done by an HLTA and TAs'.

Really want to get more time with my students but most of my time is non-pupil running another department and team.

As much as I love the academic and SEN side maybe the management route is less fraught.