Radioactive B-58s
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MartG

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233 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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I've just read a short article about the B-58 Hustler using an alloy called HK-31 in its construction. HK-31, also known as Mag-Thor, was an alloy of magnesium, thorium, and zirconium which is no longer in use since the three percent thorium it contains makes the alloy radioactive ( though only harmful if ingested ).

Apparently the B-58 had a greater radiation signature than the nuclear weapons it carried !

The same alloy was also used in several missiles such as the Bomarc and D-21, as well as the adapter section of the Gemini spacecraft.

Crazy stuff they did back then !


Eric Mc

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294 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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Not to mention the radioactive dials in the cockpit.

hidetheelephants

35,702 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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An explanation of some Thorium alloys; it's a pretty unexplored area of metallurgy and needs more investigation.

Simpo Two

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294 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Not to mention the radioactive dials in the cockpit.
Do you mean the same stuff they put in luminous watches? Americium I think.

ecsrobin

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194 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Not to mention the radioactive dials in the cockpit.
Do you mean the same stuff they put in luminous watches? Americium I think.
Tritium is the stuff for watches I believe.

markmullen

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263 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Not to mention the radioactive dials in the cockpit.
Hence the issue at Dalgety Bay

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/mod-will-cle...

williamp

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302 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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markmullen said:
Eric Mc said:
Not to mention the radioactive dials in the cockpit.
Hence the issue at Dalgety Bay

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/mod-will-cle...
Oooohhhhh, buried spitfires. The brass build plate wont have rusted, so we could build a lake full of brand new, zero hour, 100% original ww2 warbirds. Anyone got a spare 50 mil for salvage rights??

eccles

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251 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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ecsrobin said:
Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Not to mention the radioactive dials in the cockpit.
Do you mean the same stuff they put in luminous watches? Americium I think.
Tritium is the stuff for watches I believe.
Tritium is the modern safe stuff. Radium was the old dangerous stuff.

Simpo Two

92,663 posts

294 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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eccles said:
Tritium is the modern safe stuff. Radium was the old dangerous stuff.
What made my watches luminous in the 70's/80's? I've had the same watch since 1979; it was luminous to start with but faded to nothing many years ago.

llewop

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240 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Simpo Two said:
eccles said:
Tritium is the modern safe stuff. Radium was the old dangerous stuff.
What made my watches luminous in the 70's/80's? I've had the same watch since 1979; it was luminous to start with but faded to nothing many years ago.
For a time they also used promethium, but it was quite literally a dim idea as the half life is only 2.6 years, so faded almost before your eyes! If your watch has a T or P in a circle on the face of it, you can probably work out which was used. The radiation would have damaged the phosphor as well as making it glow, so no surprise no luminous news after a while, regardless of which isotope was used.

On the thread topic - quite a few thorium-magnesium engines over the years, some still around it seems. Mostly not an issue if you don't hug the thing!