Best penetrating fluid and window guide lubricants
Discussion
Hi All,
Went to Halfords for a new can of rubber and vinyl spray to put on the window guides to keep the window speed up (previously recommended on PH and I found that to be justified) but they don't sell it anymore. Anyone found anything else that's good ? Autoglymn seem to do something similar.
I also have a bolt seized in a Land Rover chassis. It's a tow bar mount bolt and approx M10. It sheared when I tried to remove it, leaving the bolt shank in the chassis tube. Have been soaking it from both ends in WD40 off-and-on for weeks but won't budge - can't even rotate it within the chassis tube. So are there better penetrating fluids than WD40 or are they all pretty much the same.
Going to try heat next otherwise.
Went to Halfords for a new can of rubber and vinyl spray to put on the window guides to keep the window speed up (previously recommended on PH and I found that to be justified) but they don't sell it anymore. Anyone found anything else that's good ? Autoglymn seem to do something similar.
I also have a bolt seized in a Land Rover chassis. It's a tow bar mount bolt and approx M10. It sheared when I tried to remove it, leaving the bolt shank in the chassis tube. Have been soaking it from both ends in WD40 off-and-on for weeks but won't budge - can't even rotate it within the chassis tube. So are there better penetrating fluids than WD40 or are they all pretty much the same.
Going to try heat next otherwise.
IMO I would not lubricate the runners. It is a short term fix and one that attracts more dirt and the spray continually runs down the windows. Look for the cause of the slow running; it may be the window rubber felt has worn away (highly likely) and/or the wiring to the motor. The mechanism could also be gunged up with old grease and requires stripping out and cleaning/lubricating
I am guilty of using spray in the past; it doesn't last and creates more problems.
Fix the root cause of the problem and not symptoms.
Link to test the wiring]
I am guilty of using spray in the past; it doesn't last and creates more problems.
Fix the root cause of the problem and not symptoms.
Link to test the wiring]
Deblock oil is the dogs danglies for rusted parts....As said about the window grease..It will attract dirt and grit..Check the rubber and guides as they may have lost their finish and also if you can clean the connectors to the motor but be careful if you need to pull them apart..Use a good electrical cleaner/Lube and grease up the mechanicals of the motor cogs and any scissor mechanisms/Pivots of the window lift runners..This should be done periodically...Its a pain to do on my Wedge but better than burning out the motor or having the window stop working while you are out and it starts pishing down....Pull over...On goes the roof...Up goes the passenger side....Drivers side.....I said..
DRIVERS SIDE.....You frantically push the button but nothing happens....
...Yes this has happened to me....
DRIVERS SIDE.....You frantically push the button but nothing happens.......Yes this has happened to me....Bassfiend229hp said:
WD40 isn't even designed as a lube ... it's a water displacement fluid (as witnessed by the name).
Phil
It does say "loosens rusty parts and frees sticky mechanisms" on the can. Interesting what the WD stands for though; had wondered. What do you use then Bassfield?Phil
Thanks All,
Had heard about the lack of voltage at the motor being an issue, with it being as low as 8V. That's quite a drop!
Have lubricated the motor linkage and the sliders in the past several times but it had no effect on the lift speed. The thing that did improve speed quite dramatically was the rubber lubricant spray. What's the issue with the runners then, do they collapse and grip the window edges too much or something ?
I think the driver's side may need adjusting as the window rear edge seems to drop when it gets to the fully lowered position and can cause the window to jam when right at the bottom. I stripped the door but couldn't see how that rear guide rail could be accurately adjusted. It's real difficult to see in there.
Had heard about the lack of voltage at the motor being an issue, with it being as low as 8V. That's quite a drop!
Have lubricated the motor linkage and the sliders in the past several times but it had no effect on the lift speed. The thing that did improve speed quite dramatically was the rubber lubricant spray. What's the issue with the runners then, do they collapse and grip the window edges too much or something ?
I think the driver's side may need adjusting as the window rear edge seems to drop when it gets to the fully lowered position and can cause the window to jam when right at the bottom. I stripped the door but couldn't see how that rear guide rail could be accurately adjusted. It's real difficult to see in there.
taylormj4 said:
What's the issue with the runners then, do they collapse and grip the window edges too much or something ?
The felt in the runners wears out leaving just the rubber, you then add the lube which appears to improve things for a while, but dirt & crud accumulate in the runners sticking to the lube which slows things down & repeat......ultimately if the felt has worn out you need to replace it.
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