Anybody have any knowledge of this Vantage?

[espritgt3]

Just wondered if anybody has any knowledge/info on the 2006 V8V currently for sale at Aspi Specialist Cars, Warwickshire?
Currently displaying AM06 RUS.
Had a little look around it today.

Cheers

Lee

[tonyhall38]

It was built in gaydon......other than that diddly squat......

[espritgt3]

Haha, thanks Tony, even with my limited knowledge l'd managed to figure that much out! 😂👍🏻

[divetheworld]

Looks a good deal. All depends upon its condition (paint defects) and history. These early cars seem to be the same price they were 2 years ago.

[JS1500]

divetheworld said:

Looks a good deal. All depends upon its condition (paint defects) and history. These early cars seem to be the same price they were 2 years ago.

Yep, prices have definately firmed up.

[Ken Figenus]

martindesu said:

Did you buy the car in the end? It's a strong contender for me right now, on a different plate, but I can't get any history on it due to stupid data protection laws.

I smell a rat - cars don't have data protection laws... People do though...so post them a big felt tip pen or buy elsewhere.

[Cold]

No rat to smell, just eye rolling at dealerships that have a flawed understanding of the DPA.

[Frances The Mute]

martindesu said:

McGurks won't give me any info on old services.

Stratstone wouldn't for my current BMW M3.

Garages won't give out info without the consent of the owner at the time...

Not sure there's a rat to smell here yet.

When I was looking at one of their cars, they happily gave me all of the information they held on it for me to review. I was there in person though so I suppose it's easier than scanning a bunch of documentation before emailing it.

Maybe everything they have on it is just a stamp in the service book?

[Ken Figenus]

Ok maybe fewer rodents than I thought but its still a ridiculous policy.

I chopped in my DD recently at a main dealer (big group) and proudly took in info that would add value to the car and help the dealer pass it on. I only included stuff I'd be happy for them to have but they gave them all back to me - new owner will never know that it had extra oil services, loads of new bits, swirl flaps removed and even an 'unrequired' auto box service at £500!

Surely its a misunderstanding and a misinterpretation of the DPA so I wonder what their real reasons are - to avoid a previous owner and a new owner agreeing that the car had a fault which hits the selling dealer? But wait - previous owner will be named and addressed on the V5

I sometimes wonder if I should fettle the Rapide so well as I do if dealers take no store of anything over and above a stamp in the book should I ever chop her in... It would mean a lot for a private sale of course but that would need to be a pretty confident private buyer...

[Jon39]

The AM main dealers have maintenance information on computer.

Perhaps funny, when sitting with debit card in pocket opposite the salesman, how quickly the maintenance history appears from their printer.

To be fair, maybe this is only simple if the same dealer has supplied and serviced a particular car.

In my case, I was very pleased to see almost no history of any faults.

[RobDown]

I know it may not seem helpful in this particular case. But I think the dealers are perfectly correct in not giving out that information without the owners consent.

Consider this, would you like any stranger to be able to walk into a dealer this weekend and say "hey, ken is going to sell his car, please can you give me all the information about what's he's had done and where?". The dealer isn't to know whether you are selling your car or not

Ok maintainence records perhaps not the most sensitive of information, but even so I wouldn't want anyone to be able to access all that information on my car without my permission

[Car mad enthusiast]

You are indeed correct. There are many ways of obtaining such information legitimately if its available.

RobDown said:

I know it may not seem helpful in this particular case. But I think the dealers are perfectly correct in not giving out that information without the owners consent.

Consider this, would you like any stranger to be able to walk into a dealer this weekend and say "hey, ken is going to sell his car, please can you give me all the information about what's he's had done and where?". The dealer isn't to know whether you are selling your car or not

Ok maintainence records perhaps not the most sensitive of information, but even so I wouldn't want anyone to be able to access all that information on my car without my permission

[Cold]

It's a car. It has no rights under the DPA, Employment Act or Geneva Convention.

[RobDown]

Cold said:

It's a car. It has no rights under the DPA, Employment Act or Geneva Convention.

Great, so can you please publish your mobile phone records on here? It's a phone after all, not a person. Thanks

[Cold]

RobDown said:

Great, so can you please publish your mobile phone records on here? It's a phone after all, not a person. Thanks

Sure, I can give you all the maintenance records of my phone. In the same way I won't tell you who I have called or details of any messages, I won't expect you to divulge where you have driven your car and to see whom and why.

But as for my phone, well it had its screen replaced about six months ago and has a small mark on bottom left corner. The battery still holds a good charge. The storage has been upgraded with a 32 gb microcard from Skandisk. Thank you for your interest.

[RobDown]

Great, so it's marked, isn't original and has had an upgrade that may or may not impact the warranty. You ok if I put that up into the Internet for all to see. Might affect the value

By the way I'm hoping you can see where I'm going here?. If any dealer I take my car to, then gives the data on my car and what I've had done to it to any stranger that asks for it (without my permission) then I am never going to use that dealer again.

And I would expect the vast majority of people on here to feel exactly the same

But you keep arguing the other way of you like

[Jon39]

I quite understand your wish for privacy Rob. I am the same, and try to be careful with the internet.

It surprises me that so much information, which used to be regarded as private, is now freely available. It seems that anyone can become an internet snooper now.

One example that comes to mind is the MoT information. We can see anyone's vehicle mileage going back several years, with details of any advisories. Directors of limited companies have always had their details publicly available, but now anyone can see that instantly, often including home addresses.

Youngsters must sometimes regret giving too much away, as employment applicants routinely now have their internet history looked for.

Perhaps there could be an argument for car maintenance history to become more available. Remember the white V8VS repair saga. We know the story, but the buyer might not.

[DB4DM]

Is it not the case that neither function nor accuracy of the odometer is an MOT test item?

[Cold]

RobDown said:

Great, so it's marked, isn't original and has had an upgrade that may or may not impact the warranty. You ok if I put that up into the Internet for all to see. Might affect the value

By the way I'm hoping you can see where I'm going here?. If any dealer I take my car to, then gives the data on my car and what I've had done to it to any stranger that asks for it (without my permission) then I am never going to use that dealer again.

And I would expect the vast majority of people on here to feel exactly the same

But you keep arguing the other way of you like

So you're expecting a seller to lie to a purchaser about the history of the car? Is that the correct way to market a vehicle?
It's the seller's prerogative whether to be honest about what may or may not have been replaced over the years, but to try to hide behind the DPA only shows them to be ignorant of the DPA.

But if I asked a seller about the mechanical history of their car and they were reluctant to disclose the information then I'd probably find another car to view. I expect the vast majority of buyers would do the same. I hope you can see where I'm going here? But you keep arguing the other way if you like.

[Ken Figenus]

Rob get your argument; I really do as someone who fights but loses the internet privacy battle daily. In fact I'm one of the few that withholds real name here, abridge it on FB, and rarely even give my phone number out these days...[especially after Anglian windows hassled me for 5 years and that E Bay shady nutter got my personal number from E Bay to insult me with comedy offers on a car and then got heavy...but I digress].

So if you have chopped a car in and the dealer owns it then info such as the car has had new clutch is very valuable to any prospective buyer. I helped a mate buy an early Vantage recently and this type info and paperwork to back it up was absolutely key - the 'word' of a second hand car salesman less so!

I do think it appropriate to ask your permission to divulge info though and then buyers can decide accordingly. I can see why someone wouldn't want knowledge of a £40k accident repair bill broadcast maybe...